Ideas for AICP CM credits - Cyburbia Forums

Joe Iliff · 2008-10-06, 12:06 PM

I mentioned this in another thread, and someone suggested it might be its own discussion.

What with everyone needing to get Certification Maintenance (CM) credits to keep their AICP designation, there has been a lot of discussion about it. Some people have said it has the appearance that the easiest way to get the credits you need is to attend APA national events, or otherwise purchase their educational services. This can be expensive given the tightening municipal budgets prevalent today and seems to some people as nothing more than more than a way for APA to make more money, essentially mandating that AICP members buy their stuff. Furthering this perception have been complaints from non-APA education providers about how expensive and time-consuming it is to have their services accredited for CM credits by APA.

In the other thread, I mentioned that the regional level might be a good place to get CM credits. The attendees don't have to travel all the way to the National Conference. And the providers may be able to assemble enough of an audience to keep the cost reasonable. Some states might not have enough interest to justify their own conference or workshop, but grouped together, it might be more feasible on a CM credit per time-and-money investment ratio.

What other thoughts do we have about how to get CM credits? How worried are you about getting the credits you need?

hullcorey · 2008-10-06, 02:07 PM

I am not really worried about getting my credits. I did attend the last National Conference and got a good start on my credits there however. I think that regional confrences are a great idea though. Spreading out the knowledge base beyond a state can really help. Sometimes you get kind of bored with what is going on in your own state and a regional conference can get rid of that boredom as new contacts are made. I know that Indiana, Ohio, and Kentucky do a conference every two years, and I think that GA and FL are thinking about a joint conference as well.

vagaplanner · 2008-10-13, 06:32 PM

Planetizen has on-line courses that offer CM credits. These are typically about $100 per course.

JNA · 2008-10-13, 06:41 PM

Has anybody looked at and/or worked through this one yet ?

Quote:

New online course on HIA
AICP is pleased to offer "Planning for Healthy Places with Health Impact Assessments," the first in a series of CM-eligible online courses from APA. Through examples and activities, this how-to guide explains the value of health impact assessments and outlines the steps involved. APA developed the course in partnership with the National Association of County and City Health Officials. It is offered free of charge through a grant from the Centers for Disease Control.
CM | 6.0

http://professional.captus.com/Plann...a/default.aspx

RichmondJake · 2008-10-13, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by JNA

Has anybody looked at and/or worked through this one yet ?

http://professional.captus.com/Plann...a/default.aspx

But you have to watch the videos, pay attention, take the quiz, and pass with a 70% grade!!
That sounds like too much work to me.

DetroitPlanner · 2009-08-31, 12:29 PM

AICP has really stepped it up. There are now some 23.5 credits you can get on their website for free.

Last night I did a tuesdays course in a little more than an hour, and added an hour I needed.

Suburb Repairman · 2009-08-31, 01:58 PM

Another option folks may not be aware of yet. I haven't used it, but it sounds like a good option if you live somewhere with lazy providers:

As we all know, one of the hassles of finding activities is that most of our 32 required credit hours need to be from events where the Provider has applied to APA to offer the event for CM credit. But, starting in July, the APA Web site now allows us to log hours for other events. To do this, you need to Log In to the APA CM Web site at: http://www.planning.org/cm/log/, then Navigate to the “My CM Log” page. Directly under the tally of how many hours you have, there is a box for “Add Self-Reported Credits”. Navigate to this page and you will see information on “Self-Reporting Basics” and “CM Criteria”. In short, “For every two-year CM reporting period, AICP members may self-report up to 8 credits from professional development activities that are not registered with APA by the provider….Members may submit events that occurred on or after April 14, 2007.”

Tide · 2009-09-02, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by JNA

Has anybody looked at and/or worked through this one yet ?

http://professional.captus.com/Plann...a/default.aspx

I did this one a few weeks ago, took half an afternoon. I learned some stuff, it's a bit monotone but gets you 6 CM. The hardest part was finding the link and setting it up.

Repo Man · 2009-09-10, 10:31 AM

Wisconsin APA chapter has done a great job providing short seminars that are free and are typically 1 credit. I am not sure they have done enought to get all of your CM credits but its a good way to knock off some of them.

I still predict that in the long-run people are just going to let their AICP go because of this CM requirement. If the planning community in general starts to think its not worth it, AICP won't have any bearing on whether someone gets a job or not. Most jobs don't require it anyway.

dferry01 · 2009-09-11, 03:01 PM

Rail~Volution, a national conference focusing on the role of transit and land use in fostering sustainable, livable communities, has over 50 workshops and 16 mobile tours accredited for AICP CM credits.
Check out our brochure to see some of the panels, symposiums, speakers, workshops, and tours we've got planned.

If the registration fee seems too steep, there's a scholarship program available. National scholarships have already been disbursed, but Local scholarships (meaning anyone from New England) are being accepted until 9/18 (the site says 9/11, but we extended the deadline).

The One · 2009-10-19, 08:32 PM

CM Log:
32.00 Required
48.00 Earned
0.00 Needed
16.00 For Carry Over

Reporting Period 01/01/2010 to 12/31/2011
CM Status Active

L Law Credits completed
(9.50 earned of 1.5 required)
E Ethics Credits completed
(7.00 earned of 1.5 required)
Self Reported 8.00 applied of 8 available
Authored 0.00 applied of 16 available

Looks like I'm covered for a while

JNA · 2009-10-19, 11:18 PM

For the Self Reporting hours,

Has anybody used NIMS 300 and 400 for this ?

Cardinal · 2009-10-20, 10:10 AM

I received my letter from APA yesterday stating that I had 21 hours of the 32 required. When I looked over my credit log I found that I had logged just one or two sessions from some of the conferences I attended. I think this might have been in part because of problems with the log itself. Anyway, filling in the balance and reporting credits for other events I attended got me over the threshhold.

Does anyone else find the CM log difficult to use? I had to open two screens to be able to search for an event in one, and log the hours in the other.

The One · 2009-10-20, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by Cardinal

I received my letter from APA yesterday stating that I had 21 hours of the 32 required. When I looked over my credit log I found that I had logged just one or two sessions from some of the conferences I attended. I think this might have been in part because of problems with the log itself. Anyway, filling in the balance and reporting credits for other events I attended got me over the threshhold.

Does anyone else find the CM log difficult to use? I had to open two screens to be able to search for an event in one, and log the hours in the other.

Difficult in the sense that I had to sort through hundreds of CM items to find the conferences and seminars I've attended. As an example, the Arizona APA conference doesn't show up on the regular calendar, I had to find it listed under the State option.

RichmondJake · 2009-10-20, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by The One

Looks like I'm covered for a while

CM Log: RJ, AICP
32.00 Required
48.00 Earned
0.00 Needed
16.00 For Carry Over

Reporting Period 01/01/2010 to 12/31/2011
CM Status Active

Law Credits completed (7.25 earned of 1.5 required)
Ethics Credits completed (5.00 earned of 1.5 required)
Self Reported 0.00 applied of 8 available
Authored 0.00 applied of 16 available

JNA · 2009-10-20, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by The One

Looks like I'm covered for a while

Same Here.

10.00 For Carry Over

Planderella · 2009-10-21, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JNA

Has anybody looked at and/or worked through this one yet ?

http://professional.captus.com/Plann...a/default.aspx

I skipped the course and went straight to the quiz.

I attended the PTS in Chicago this past June. I hate to say this, but it was a free trip out of the office, although it did cover the credits I needed to close out my 2 yr period. With the national conference here in New Orleans next year, I'll be covered for another 2 yrs. Despite these breaks, I do think that holding regional conferences is a good idea.

The One · 2009-10-21, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cardinal

Does anyone else find the CM log difficult to use? I had to open two screens to be able to search for an event in one, and log the hours in the other.

Hi Cardinal, we're with AICP and we're here to help you

Join us for a free Webinar on October 21
Learn how to use the AICP member CM logging system and online program calendar. APA staff will also answer questions about Certification Maintenance (CM) requirements and new features to claim CM credits.
Title:
Certification Maintenance (CM) Log Demonstration
Date:
Wednesday, October 21, 2009
Time:
2:00 PM - 2:30 PM EDT

Salmissra · 2009-10-21, 01:26 PM

Reading this thread made me realize I hadn't updated my CM log in a while. Now that it's done, I'm good!

CM Log: Salmissra, AICP
32.00 Required
33.25 Earned
0.00 Needed
1.25 For Carry Over

And I still have 2 months to go! I might be able to get in a couple Tuesdays at APA feeds over Thanksgiving, or perhaps something local if at a good time. Since I've been moved over to Real Estate (which is way better than being unemployed), I know I'm going to have to pay my dues this next round. Yuck. Plus, leaving the office to get credits won't be as easy.

JNA · 2009-10-29, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JNA

For the Self Reporting hours,

Has anybody used NIMS 300 and 400 for this ?

e-mailed APA/AICP if NIMS 300 qualified for self-reporting CM hours;
answer back - yes.

Reported the 8 hrs max allowed.

JNA · 2009-11-02, 09:37 PM

Another Self-Reporting CM idea found in Landscape Architecture Magazine -

Quote:

ASLA and Landscape Architecture are offering continuing education credits in some issues. These tests consists of multiple-choice questions
based on articles that appeared in the magazine. Tests are available for credit for two years after their publication.
http://archives.asla.org/nonmembers/lam.html

A minimum score of 75% is required to earn credit.
Fees: ASLA member fee, $15; nonmember fee, $30

TOFB · 2009-11-03, 02:28 PM

65 CMs Audio conferences are easy money

luckless pedestrian · 2009-11-03, 03:34 PM

every time I see this thread when I am perusing the thread headers, I wish it was in the FAC

RichmondJake · 2009-11-19, 09:10 PM

CM Log: RJ AICP
32.00 Required
56.00 Earned
0.00 Needed
16.00 For Carry Over

L Law Credits completed (7.25 earned of 1.5 required)
E Ethics Credits completed (5.00 earned of 1.5 required)
Self Reported 8.00 applied of 8 available
Authored 0.00 applied of 16 available

Thanks and kudos go out to JNA for suggesting I add the "Self Reported" CMs for attending the Dept of Defense, Office of Economic Adjustment conference in Orlando earlier this month. (If I remember correctly, it was about partnerships with the military, BRAC, JLUS and some such stuff.)

56 CMs, baby!!!!

I'm almost FAICP. No, no, not really.

2008-10-06, 12:06 PM	#1
Joe Iliff Cyburbian Registered: Aug 1997 Location: The Land Without Gluten Posts: 1,190	Ideas for AICP CM credits I mentioned this in another thread, and someone suggested it might be its own discussion. What with everyone needing to get Certification Maintenance (CM) credits to keep their AICP designation, there has been a lot of discussion about it. Some people have said it has the appearance that the easiest way to get the credits you need is to attend APA national events, or otherwise purchase their educational services. This can be expensive given the tightening municipal budgets prevalent today and seems to some people as nothing more than more than a way for APA to make more money, essentially mandating that AICP members buy their stuff. Furthering this perception have been complaints from non-APA education providers about how expensive and time-consuming it is to have their services accredited for CM credits by APA. In the other thread, I mentioned that the regional level might be a good place to get CM credits. The attendees don't have to travel all the way to the National Conference. And the providers may be able to assemble enough of an audience to keep the cost reasonable. Some states might not have enough interest to justify their own conference or workshop, but grouped together, it might be more feasible on a CM credit per time-and-money investment ratio. What other thoughts do we have about how to get CM credits? How worried are you about getting the credits you need? __________________ JOE ILIFF ________________________________________________________________________ Debt is normal . . . Be weird! Dave Ramsey "Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think." Martin Luther King, Jr.

2008-10-13, 06:32 PM	#3
vagaplanner Cyburbian Registered: Jan 2006 Location: Yo momma's house! Posts: 285	Planetizen has on-line courses that offer CM credits. These are typically about $100 per course. __________________ ...my lifestyle determines my death style! - Metallica

2009-08-31, 12:29 PM	#6
DetroitPlanner Cyburbian Registered: Mar 2004 Location: Where the weak are killed and eaten. Posts: 3,242	AICP has really stepped it up. There are now some 23.5 credits you can get on their website for free. Last night I did a tuesdays course in a little more than an hour, and added an hour I needed. __________________ Two coneys and Chilli fries, a Day on Belle Isle with your family, running to the corner for a Faygo and Better Made's thats Detroit Love. - K. Kilpatrick:-o

2009-08-31, 01:58 PM	#7
Suburb Repairman Professional Dog Trainer Registered: Jun 2003 Location: at the neighboring pub Posts: 3,722	Another option folks may not be aware of yet. I haven't used it, but it sounds like a good option if you live somewhere with lazy providers: As we all know, one of the hassles of finding activities is that most of our 32 required credit hours need to be from events where the Provider has applied to APA to offer the event for CM credit. But, starting in July, the APA Web site now allows us to log hours for other events. To do this, you need to Log In to the APA CM Web site at: http://www.planning.org/cm/log/, then Navigate to the “My CM Log” page. Directly under the tally of how many hours you have, there is a box for “Add Self-Reported Credits”. Navigate to this page and you will see information on “Self-Reporting Basics” and “CM Criteria”. In short, “For every two-year CM reporting period, AICP members may self-report up to 8 credits from professional development activities that are not registered with APA by the provider….Members may submit events that occurred on or after April 14, 2007.” __________________ "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Herman Göring at the Nuremburg trials (thoughts on democracy)

2009-09-10, 10:31 AM	#9
Repo Man Cyburbian Registered: May 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,498	Wisconsin APA chapter has done a great job providing short seminars that are free and are typically 1 credit. I am not sure they have done enought to get all of your CM credits but its a good way to knock off some of them. I still predict that in the long-run people are just going to let their AICP go because of this CM requirement. If the planning community in general starts to think its not worth it, AICP won't have any bearing on whether someone gets a job or not. Most jobs don't require it anyway. __________________ "I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me, no matter how dumb my suggestions are." - Homer Simpson

2008-10-06, 02:07 PM	#2
hullcorey Member Registered: Aug 2008 Location: Valdosta, GA Posts: 13	I am not really worried about getting my credits. I did attend the last National Conference and got a good start on my credits there however. I think that regional confrences are a great idea though. Spreading out the knowledge base beyond a state can really help. Sometimes you get kind of bored with what is going on in your own state and a regional conference can get rid of that boredom as new contacts are made. I know that Indiana, Ohio, and Kentucky do a conference every two years, and I think that GA and FL are thinking about a joint conference as well.

2009-09-11, 03:01 PM	#10
dferry01 Member Registered: Aug 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 9	Rail~Volution 2009 in Boston, MA Rail~Volution, a national conference focusing on the role of transit and land use in fostering sustainable, livable communities, has over 50 workshops and 16 mobile tours accredited for AICP CM credits. Check out our brochure to see some of the panels, symposiums, speakers, workshops, and tours we've got planned. If the registration fee seems too steep, there's a scholarship program available. National scholarships have already been disbursed, but Local scholarships (meaning anyone from New England) are being accepted until 9/18 (the site says 9/11, but we extended the deadline).

2009-10-19, 08:32 PM	#11
The One Cyburbian Registered: Mar 2004 Location: The Space Between Your Ears Posts: 5,290	Remove Monkey From Shoulders.....For A Little While. CM Log: 32.00 Required 48.00 Earned 0.00 Needed 16.00 For Carry Over Reporting Period 01/01/2010 to 12/31/2011 CM Status Active L Law Credits completed (9.50 earned of 1.5 required) E Ethics Credits completed (7.00 earned of 1.5 required) Self Reported 8.00 applied of 8 available Authored 0.00 applied of 16 available Looks like I'm covered for a while __________________ Stephen King's inspiration: While browsing through an attic with his elder brother, King uncovered a paperback version of an H. P. Lovecraft collection of short stories that had belonged to his father. The cover art—an illustration of a monster hiding within the recesses of a hell-like cavern beneath a tombstone—was, he writes, “the moment of my life when the dowsing rod suddenly went down hard ... as far as I was concerned, I was on my way.”

2009-10-20, 10:10 AM	#13
Cardinal Cyburbian Registered: Aug 2001 Location: The Cheese State Posts: 7,952	I received my letter from APA yesterday stating that I had 21 hours of the 32 required. When I looked over my credit log I found that I had logged just one or two sessions from some of the conferences I attended. I think this might have been in part because of problems with the log itself. Anyway, filling in the balance and reporting credits for other events I attended got me over the threshhold. Does anyone else find the CM log difficult to use? I had to open two screens to be able to search for an event in one, and log the hours in the other. __________________ APA - Extorting money from professional planners for 25 years

2009-10-21, 01:26 PM	#19
Salmissra Cyburbian by Choice Registered: Aug 2004 Location: New Dept - Same City Posts: 2,442	Reading this thread made me realize I hadn't updated my CM log in a while. Now that it's done, I'm good! CM Log: Salmissra, AICP 32.00 Required 33.25 Earned 0.00 Needed 1.25 For Carry Over And I still have 2 months to go! I might be able to get in a couple Tuesdays at APA feeds over Thanksgiving, or perhaps something local if at a good time. Since I've been moved over to Real Estate (which is way better than being unemployed), I know I'm going to have to pay my dues this next round. Yuck. Plus, leaving the office to get credits won't be as easy. __________________ He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.

2009-11-03, 02:28 PM	#22
TOFB I could set the building on fire . . . Registered: Jan 2006 Location: Down in Storage B Posts: 1,061	65 CMs Audio conferences are easy money

2009-11-03, 03:34 PM	#23
luckless pedestrian Cyburbian Registered: Aug 2005 Location: here, there, and everywhere Posts: 4,622	every time I see this thread when I am perusing the thread headers, I wish it was in the FAC

2009-11-19, 09:10 PM	#24
RichmondJake A 50-foot woman in a 5-foot dress Registered: Aug 2001 Location: Everybody here, comes from somewhere Posts: 11,761	CM Log: RJ AICP 32.00 Required 56.00 Earned 0.00 Needed 16.00 For Carry Over L Law Credits completed (7.25 earned of 1.5 required) E Ethics Credits completed (5.00 earned of 1.5 required) Self Reported 8.00 applied of 8 available Authored 0.00 applied of 16 available Thanks and kudos go out to JNA for suggesting I add the "Self Reported" CMs for attending the Dept of Defense, Office of Economic Adjustment conference in Orlando earlier this month. (If I remember correctly, it was about partnerships with the military, BRAC, JLUS and some such stuff.) 56 CMs, baby!!!! I'm almost FAICP. No, no, not really. __________________ This signature line left intentionally blank.