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    Top ten places ...

    ... where you would like to live, given the following:

    * You'll be paid a salary that allows you to live a comfortable, middle class lifestyle there (i.e. you can afford a three bedroom, two bathroom, 1800 square foot/170m2 house in a decent neighborhood, without selling your first born).
    * Family issues (proximity to elderly/sick relatives, etc) aren't a factor.

    My list, in no particular order.

    1) Toronto, ON
    2) Sydney, NSW
    3) Portland, OR
    4) Seattle, WA
    5) San Francisco, CA
    6) Vancouver, BC
    7) Brisbane, Qlnd
    8) Washington, DC
    9) Boulder, CO (regardless of trustifarians)
    10) Melbourne, Vic

    My top ten "I'd rather be in a van by the river than a house in one of these cities"

    1) El Paso. TX
    2) Amarillo, TX
    3) Beaumont, TX
    4) Oklahoma City, OK
    5) Tulsa, OK
    6) Pueblo, CO
    7) Topeka, KS
    8) Midland/Odessa, TX
    9) Laredo/Rio Grande Valley area, TX
    10) Williamsport, PA
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    My list in no particular order

    Manhattan, Kansas
    Heidelburg, Germany
    London, England
    Dublin, Ireland
    Milan, Italy
    Austin, Texas
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Munich, Germany
    Anywhere in Denmark
    Christchurch, New Zeeland


    My anti life list:
    Branson, Missouri
    Las Vegas, Nevada
    Atlantic City, New Jersey
    Anywhere the humidity ever reaches 100% !
    UTAH, Utah
    LA, CA
    Houston, Texas
    Atlanta, Georgia
    Ludwigshaffen, Germany
    Bremerhaven, Germany
    Belfast, Ireland

    And based on hearsay only: Buffalo, New York

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    Ten Most Desirable: (no order)
    Manhattan, NY
    Portland, ME
    San Fran, CA
    Madrid, Spain
    Boston, MA
    Narangansett, RI
    New Glarus, WI
    Charlottesville, VA
    Brussels, Belgium
    Amsterdam, Holland

    Wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole:
    Atlanta, GA
    LA, CA
    Charlotte, NC
    Syracuse, NY
    Northern Virginia/DC Metro Area
    Atlantic City, NJ
    Ok, almost anywhere, NJ, if only because of their highway system


    I actually would go to Buffalo, but only if I didn't have any children in school.

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    Likewise...no particular order...

    The slightly Northeast biased want list (includes my current place of residence):

    Concord, NH
    Burlington, VT
    Portsmouth, NH
    Boston, MA
    Providence, RI
    Portland, ME
    Portland, OR
    Bozeman, MT
    Munich, Germany
    Toronto

    The "Never...if I can help it" list:

    Muncie, IN
    Los Angeles
    Dallas
    Houston
    Atlanta
    Miami
    NYC (just for sheer hatred of the Yankees)
    And anywhere that I can't see a mountain on the horizon (with apologies to those of you from the flatlands)
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    Not having traveled much out of North America, I will limit my comment to North American cities. In no particular order, these are some favorites:

    Madison, WI
    Rochester, MN
    Eugene, OR
    Savanna, GA
    Vancouver, BC
    Santa Fe, NM
    Tacoma, WA
    Montreal & Quebec, if they would just learn to speak American

    Maybe because I like more rural area, my favorite metros are all smaller cities, and my least favorite tend to be bigger:

    Oklahoma City, OK
    Dallas, TX
    Houston, TX
    Los Angeles, CA
    Atlantic City, NJ
    Washington, DC
    Orlando, Floridisney
    New York, NY (sorry)
    Springfield, MA
    Phoenix, AZ

    KMateja - New Galrus? Wat's up wit dat, hey?

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    this is tough...

    Most desired in no order:

    San Diego, CA (but not inland)
    London, UK (probably west end)
    New York, NY (but not Staten Island)
    Henderson, NV
    Portland, OR
    Siasconset, Nantucket, MA
    New Orleans (new French Quarter but far enough off Bourbon Street)
    Savannah, GA
    Chicago (but the neighborhood would have to be 'just right' and I would have to be in a different profession)
    Denver, CO


    Not if you paid me:

    Phoenix, AZ
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Tempe, AZ
    Mesa, AZ (see a trend?)
    Peoria, Kankakee, etc... (sorry Boiker)
    Anywhere Montana, North Dakota, or South Dakota)
    Newark, NJ
    Atlanta, GA
    LA, CA
    Dallas, TX

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    Michael - The best wedding I ever attended, beside my own, was in New Glarus. I have such happy, if not slightly blurry, memories of the town, with the local brewery and deep fried cheese curds. For those of you who aren't familiar - it is this little swiss town in Wisconsin, most of the shops' signs are in german, and there is a pub or beer garden on every corner. Were I the town planner of New Glarus, I would eat cheese curds every day and Polka every night.

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    I will make a pilgrimage.

    KMateja wrote:
    Were I the town planner of New Glarus, I would eat cheese curds every day and Polka every night.
    Sweet Jesus this must be heaven you speak of. I though the PC police had wiped the fun from America. Cheese, beer and polka.......ummm.....beer.....ummmmm.

    Do they have a Volvo Dealer?

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    Oh New Glarus....

    ....what a sweet microcosm. We try to re-enact it 2 hours east in Milwaukee every summer with Germanfest, but it just isn't quite the same....


    This one's just for you, KMateja:

    http://www.swisstown.com/

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    OK, that was just so tremendous. I may have to pick up a package of cheese curds on my way home from work tonight. Granted, they're just going to be Cracker Barrell, and not battered and deep fried, but its the best I can do in Albany. sigh.

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    whats wrong with DC

    Hey whats wrong with DC? it sure as hell beats Greensboro *read greensboring* NC or worse yet Anniston Alabama. Now THAT is a god forsaken hell hole.

    Best place to live...the atlantic side of Republic of Panama', white beach, quite, diving to your hearts content, nice folks and the weather has 2 seasons, wet and dry



    Ps DC is fun just dont drive in the district, for a planned city the traffic patters are freakish at best

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    Hmmm... top 10, eh?

    Since I'm now in Oregon close to Eugene and Portland in the middle of the forest... I'll try. In no particular order:

    1) Truckee, CA
    2) Ariel, WA
    3) Bar Harbor, ME
    4) Cape Hatteras, NC
    5) Charleston, SC
    6) Hawaii... anywhere.
    7) St. Prex, Switzerland
    8) Calivas, Crete, Greece
    9) Port St. Charles, Barbados
    10) Savannah, GA

    Places you'd have to use cloroform and leg irons to get me:

    1) Detroit, MI - Or just about any rustbelt city...
    2) Miami, FL
    3) Los Angeles, CA
    4) Atlanta, GA
    5) Little Rock, AR
    6) Several N states (Nebraska/N. Dakota/New Jersey)
    7) College Station, TX - Oh hell, anywhere in Texas.
    8) Oklahoma City, OK - Hell... anywhere in Oklahoma, too.
    9) Paris, France - (Bunch of snot-nosed jerks)
    10) Countries where dictators rule... unless I can be him.
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    Sorry Danie, we briefly investigated moving to N. Virginia and hated it. The traffic, the cost of living, the traffic. We interviewed in Alexandria, in Loudon County, and some other places and could not believe how congested everything was, and how much housing cost. It reminded me a lot of Atlanta. However, I do have a lot of friends living in Fairfax and they love it.

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    OK ill admit the cost of living is a bit to swallow. My bfs house is 2 br 1 bath 1930s no dish washer no garbage disposal no off street parking on a 4500 sq ft lot and its worth 300,000

    his property value went up 80,000 in one year alone.

    but we are willing to pay it *along with so many others* becouse everything is within walking distance thus no traffic to deal with. my commute to work is about 30 min for 14 miles of interstate. it was 25 min to go 7 miles in Greensboro.

    When im older will i want to live here? That I dont know but as a young professional its fun and rewarding.

    Sure beats Orlando Fla or Hotlanta

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    Re: this is tough...

    well since i've hardley had a chance to travel and i've only had a few places to live, here's my top ten.

    Chicago (city proper)
    London (never been there but love british culture)
    I love any old industrial city that has good architecture, historic homes, and a thriving or rejuvinating downtown.


    I can easily tell you where i don't want to live:

    Atlanta (sprawl)
    LA (sprawl)
    San Diego (sprawl)
    Any newer suburban community anywhere that contributes to sprawl.
    Phoenix (sprawl)


    sprawl is bad.. mm'k
    Dude, I'm cheesing so hard right now.

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    I love some of those old industrial cities as well, provided they are not falling apart, like Springfield MA. Pittsburgh might be eligible for my list.

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    I figured I should finally get around to putting my list up...

    The best (in no real order, except for number one):

    Toronto, ON (hey, whaddya know - I live there!)
    Ottawa, ON
    Montreal, PQ
    Oxford, UK
    Kitchener-Waterloo, ON
    Heidelburg, Germany (Only if El Guapo is there too)
    Tokyo, Japan (never been, but I'd really like to go)
    Boston, MA
    Manchester, UK
    Amsterdam, Netherlands

    The "not if I can help it"...

    Houston, TX (sorry TexasPlanner)
    Los Angeles, CA
    Sudbury, ON (but I'll probably end up back there anyway)
    Detroit, MI
    Phoenix, AZ
    Edmonton, AB
    Hamilton, ON
    Winnipeg, MB
    Omaha, NB
    Memphis, TN

    Finally, the "I'd be interested to go, but scared shitless in"

    Cairo, Egypt
    Bombay, India
    Buenos Ares, Argentiana
    Moscow, Russia
    Philadelphia, PA
    New York, NY
    Istanbul, Turkey
    Tapei, Taiwan

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    It's cool-

    Tranplanner wrote:

    Houston, TX (sorry TexasPlanner)
    I hate Houston too, no zoning. It's awful. Been there once and hated it, wanted leave as soon as I got there. For a coastal city they have nothing implemented to really help with flooding (canals, etc.) if there is a hurricane so their underpasses flood when there is a rain storm. (If they do, it's as poorly run as the rest of the city) It's sad really, a bunch of paper shufflers and nothing more..

    Oh, and on Moscow, highly suggest if you get the chance to go, go for it. I went when Communisim was collapsing, so it was a bit scary (ok, really *$#$ scary, we weren't sure if we were going to be able to leave the country) but it was beautiful.
    When Jesus said "love your enemies", he probably didn't mean kill them.

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    Hmmmm,
    I don't think I have a top ten, how about a top three:

    1) Portland, OR
    2) Vancouver, BC
    3) Seattle, WA
    Cheers,
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    Runner wrote:
    1) Portland, OR
    2) Vancouver, BC
    3) Seattle, WA
    I'd take Portland, but I think every planner is trying to get into the city, so competition is tough. I'm not an uber-planner with impeccable credentials, so I don't think I'd land a job there. Seattle -- it's now beyond the range of affordability, and I'd have to commite from Federal Way if I was going to get a house. Vancouver -- somewhat affordable if I live in the 'burbs. Sure, I'll go there.
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    If we are talking northwest cities, how about Victoria, BC?

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    No Boston?
    Well, the coin toss was for either "Boston" or "Portland" and Portland won...
    Cheers,
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    Are you saying that Boston is the "Portland" of the east coast? (Sorry, Maine.) If not, is there one? Is there an "Atlantic City" of the west coast?

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    I don't think there is another A.C. in the world. blargh.

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