Here's an ... uhhh, interesting post from alt.planning.urban.
From: Robert Cote <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Re: Cyburbia Fourms: flame-free planning discussion
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:14:22 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:14:22 EST
Ah yes, the pro-urbanist self love society. Nothing like the mental masturbation of mutual admiration in a place where dissent is generally on the order of "Duany is greater the Calthorpe; discuss." Cyburbia suffers the popular delusion that the voices one hears in ones' own church are the only voices. Some poor person asked about roads capacities and they steered her to the Victoria site!