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    Cyburbian Emeritus Chet's avatar
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    Insomnia!

    Over the past 5 or so days, I seem to be averaging about 3 good hours of sleep every night.

    What are some good (legal) things you do to get some shut eye?

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    Don't merely toss and turn. Get up and do something. Mop the floor, get on Cyburbia...it is amazing the number of posts I delete in daylight that sounded so good at 3 in the morning.

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    I've had sleep problems for years and can give you a lot of suggestions. Most sleep problems people have are due to anxiety and it just feeds on itself when you're frustrated that you can't fall asleep. That's what you've got to break.

    Lately, I've been using Valerian every once in a while to sleep. It's a natural remedy that comes from a root and can lull you off to sleep with no drug hangover in the morning. It's not habit forming either. You can buy it at Whole Foods, 300mg of "standardized" Valerian should be good for 8 hours of sleep. Take it one hour before you want to nod off.

    Ambien is a prescription sleeping pill. It's excellent, but can be habit forming.

    Camomille tea before bed works for some. But, make use you don't drink to much so that you don't have to get up and pee.

    Non-drug things to do are:
    No caffeine in the afternoon or evening
    No exercise in the late evening (but make sure you get some)
    Don't eat a big meal late at night (indigestion)
    Booze may make you fall asleep, but it's poor quality sleep
    Turn your clock so that you can't see it
    Only get into bed to sleep when you're tired
    If you are stuggling and can't sleep, get up and do something boring away from the bed.
    No TV or computer if you can't sleep, it's too stimulating
    Only use your bed for sleeping and sex, that way your mind sees it as a relaxing place.
    And sex or killing kittens before bed never hurts either

    Good luck!

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    Try C-Span.
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    yes i vote for the sex or killing kittens one. course my dogs snuggle me and its addictive they go to sleep and im out like a light-till the beagle snores
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    I ususally work on a crossword puzzle right before I go to bed. That helps me relax, get my mind off of the day and I think it's a good vocabulary refresher.

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    Run with the porn...you can probably "borrow" a Jenna movie from MikeD.
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    Benadryl

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    I have a couple different kinds of insomnia - if I'm tired, but not sleepy, I find i have to get up and do something else. I'll write a letter to my gramma or in my journal, and usually i'll bore myself to sleepiness. Sometimes a hot bath with a magazine does the trick.

    If i'm sleepy, but just can't fall asleep, i'll pick four points in the room and focus on each point while counting to four. ie: look at dresser (1), look at don mattingly bobblehead (2), tv stand (3) bed post (4), and that just tires the hell out of me.

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    Benadryl doesn't make me drowsy but Chlorotrimatron(sp?) does, and they have it in inexpensive generic forms now.

    Hot Bath or shower.

    If some particular item is really bothering me, I get up and write about it. Once I put my thought on paper I don't seem to have the need to keep worrying about it.

    If all those don't work, I just make myself stay up and no nap the next day. Then I completely crash.
    It is all a matter of perspective!!!

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    Reading in bed for fifteen or twenty minutes usually helps me fall asleep quicker. Drinking a couple Guinness a couple hours before going to bed will usually help me sleep better. Too much alchohol, though, is bad. Keeping the room cool, and running a dehumidifier to take out the humidity are important to me. I can't sleep well when it is humid, and sleep better when the temperature is cold. Nothing is better than sex and a warm woman to snuggle up to. Unfortunately, I have not slept well for several nights.

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    A shot of whiskey helps me with that problem. (not that I have it or do that often).
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    Reading Planning magazine should do the trick. If not, try a healthy dose of Percocet and Augmentin. It's been helping me.
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    There must be something in the air; I've had a similar sleep problem lately.

    I solve it by watch the sad excuse for late night newscasts on the local NBC station. The reporting bores me right out!
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    On really bad nights I may take a half of tylenol pm, usually after a late meeting when I cannot get my mind to quiet down. Sex and boring yourself work wonders too. Also, I like meditation to get me more relaxed, even if it's only mindfull breathing.
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    If you dont have access to decent medication try meditating (honest). You don't even have to sit up. Just lay quietly and let your mind drift. Don't focus on any thought, just let them glide by. It takes some practice, but if you're not stopping to worry or think about anything, you will fall asleep quickly.

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    tv

    Stay away from 3:00 AM public access tv. It can be VERY disturbing.
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    I second Queen B's suggestion about getting up and writing about whatever it is that is bothering you (if that's the case). Even just a few words to remind myself of some ideas/trains of thought often does the trick for me, then my mind can release it and relax.

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    This image helps me to sleep...

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    Originally posted by Belle
    I second Queen B's suggestion about getting up and writing about whatever it is that is bothering you (if that's the case). Even just a few words to remind myself of some ideas/trains of thought often does the trick for me, then my mind can release it and relax.
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    I'l trade your insomnia for my lethargy.

    The past two weeks I get home and if I don't go do something right away I fall asleep and wake up around 8: 00PM, stay awake until 11: 00 then have a fight to wake up for 8: 00AM. blech
    Too lazy to beat myself up for being to lazy to beat myself up for being too lazy to... well you get the point....

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    Sorry to bring this topic up again but I'm really having problems sleeping these past few weeks. I try to stay up until 10 or 10:30 reading. But I'm waking up between 3 and 4 in the morning. I've drastically reduced alcohol consumption and stopped smoking cigars. Any other suggestions? Think I should see my doctor?

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    Drink alot of coffee in the morning, work out right after work, and eat a good heavy dinner... of turkey.
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis
    Drink alot of coffee in the morning, work out right after work, and eat a good heavy dinner... of turkey.
    I've been mainlining the coffee in the morning until I get the shakes. The turkey might work; I'll give that a try.
    Annoyingly insensitive

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    Having suffered with sleep problems for much of my adult life I have some experience with this matter and have great empathy with you on this.

    I see that folks on this forum have posted some good suggestions and maybe you have already tried some and found they work - if so, great. The sleep specialists I've spoken with sometimes disagree on certain particulars but all seem to agree on the following:
    Sleep serves the brain far more than the body. The body merely requires periods of inactivity (rest) to recharge. The brain apparently only derives benefit from sleep when REM cycles occur. Rapid Eye Movement (REM) cycles occur while dreaming. Numerous studies have been conducted where experimental subjects have been allowed to 'sleep' for 8 hours but are woken up whenever a REM cycle starts. The resulting impairment to mental acuity is nearly as bad as the control group of subjects who did not sleep at all, so we know REM is the goal of sleep (even if you don't remember dreaming). Caffeine, alcohol, and many other medications or substances are known to impair or even prevent REM cycles from occuring, so one suffering from serious sleep deprivation would do well to avoid them completely (no coffee even while shagged out the in morning). Strenuous exercise can help induce sleep but the body's metabolic functions cannot be elevated at the time of going to bed so complete your exercise at least a couple of hours prior to hitting the hay. Digestion, obviously, can also affect the body's metabolism, so one would also do well to eat as many hours as possible prior to bedtime. Drinking fluids of any sort within three hours of bedtime is also a bad idea.
    That said, even following all of the above you still might find yourself staring at the clock in the wee hours. If so, the best thing you can do is engage your mind in a mindless, repetitive activity (the whole point behind counting sheep right?). This boring activity is something that tends to vary from person to person - what works for one often does not work for another; some people swear by reading something dull but I never personally had much luck there, others swear by assigning number values to individual letters on lines of text and rearranging the letters in numerical order. The important thing is to experiment. If after trying something you find it is not working try something else. Good luck and if all else fails don't be reluctant to see a Dr. about it if you are suffering for any length of time - there could be something physically wrong such as apnea or some breathing irregularity you may not even be aware of.
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