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    Cyburbian plankton's avatar
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    pedestrian bulbouts (looking for pics)

    Our fair city will (hopefully) be adding some much needed greenery and pedestrian safety to its 'lil downtown core by installing pedestrian bulbouts at a few intersections.

    The main roadway in the area has two 12-foot travel lanes with on-street parking allowed on both sides for a total paved street width of 36 feet. Six-foot curbside sidewalks exist along the highway and along the intersecting local streets. The two intersections that I'm most interested in improving have commercial buildings at the corners with zero-setbacks (precluding good site visibility).

    If you could post an architectural rendering or a few good pics (or direct me to an applicable website), the next round's on me.

    Is there a better name for these things than 'pedestrian bulbouts'?

    Lastly, if you have success (or horror) stories in this area, I'd be interested to learn more......

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    Quote Originally posted by plankton
    Is there a better name for these things than 'pedestrian bulbouts'?
    Another name we use is kerb (curb) extensions. I have a few pics, I'll see what I can dig up.

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    thank you

    now that's service!

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    You are welcome

    Some day I might actually get some qualifications in planning!

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    A potential problem is with street cleaning. Chat with your street department about it.

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    Me again....

    Here's a pic I took (in Christchurch, South Island, New Zealand):


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    Quote Originally posted by mike gurnee
    A potential problem is with street cleaning. Chat with your street department about it.
    Good point. For better or for worse, I don't think our city sweeps its streets. B-)

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    Bulbouts are well worth it. They narrow the roadway where the pedestrian crosses. They also narrow the visual street width (particularly if you have a non-wimpy tree planted in the bulbout) so cars slow down.

    Downsides. Drainage has to flow around the bulbout. If they aren't wide enough, parking becomes a nightmare (parkers start too close to the curb and never get their bearings for parallel parking). If they are wide enough, parking is no problem.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wulf9
    Drainage has to flow around the bulbout.
    Nonsense. The storm drain remains where it is and the original curb line remains intact. A steel or tough plastic covering bridges the gap between the bulbout and the original curb (6-12 inches)quite seamlessly. Water flows unimpeded. Twice a year the fire dept. sticks a hose in there to flush out any problems or the cover is lifted and it gets swept away.
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