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Thread: Keeper Poll - Please REVOTE in the thread!

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    Gunfighter Mastiff's avatar
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    Keeper Poll - Please REVOTE in the thread!

    Here it is... It seems we have several folks who are hanging around and playing every year. The only problem is this... If someone quits, either the league contracts, or someone fills in and uses their roster to pick keepers. If we need MORE space, it's much easier.

    So... Here's the poll.... that didn't work

    For Keepers (3 only as six wasn't working):

    Mastiff
    Gedunker
    NHPlanner
    Repo Man
    Giff57
    Donk
    Dragon
    Boiker

    For NO Keepers:

    BEK
    Planderella
    Slave to the Grind
    Tranplanner
    Plankton

    Abstain:

    Joe Lliff


    Looks like keepers. Even if we wait for two new people, they can't get over 8 with one abstaining...
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    After thinking about it a bit, I changed my mind....and altered the poll #'s accordingly to reflect my change....because I CAN!!
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    Quote Originally posted by NHPlanner
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    After thinking about it a bit, I changed my mind....and altered the poll #'s accordingly to reflect my change....because I CAN!!
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    10 teams... 9 votes! Where's our other owner?!
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    Quote Originally posted by NHPlanner
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    After thinking about it a bit, I changed my mind....and altered the poll #'s accordingly to reflect my change....because I CAN!!
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    Well, right now it's 6-3 for a keeper league... Just the numbers for 6 or 3 are off. I'm betting we end up with a 3 player keeper league.
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    I don't want to keep any of those non-performing jerks from last season. Hmm.....I just remembered that I had a couple of special players that I wouldn't mind keeping. I may need to rethink my position, but right now, I'm with no keepers.
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    No keepers from last year. But I'd be cool with starting keepers with this season. If that's the case, three is the right number, IMO.

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    My 2 cents:

    New draft every year and make it a live draft. Hey, we all obviously have computers and we can make time to use a live draft. I have done it this way many times and it is a lot more interesting and fun - took way too long last time to draft. Also, get rid of the individual defensesive players, go by team.

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    Quote Originally posted by SlaveToTheGrind
    My 2 cents:

    New draft every year and make it a live draft. Hey, we all obviously have computers and we can make time to use a live draft. I have done it this way many times and it is a lot more interesting and fun - took way too long last time to draft. Also, get rid of the individual defensesive players, go by team.
    Are you even signed up yet?
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    This will NOT be about keeping last years players...

    This is about starting a keeper league THIS year. At the end of the year, I post the rosters, and then before the draft NEXT year, you declare who you'll be keeping.

    If that changes any votes, let me know.
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    Quote Originally posted by SlaveToTheGrind
    My 2 cents:

    New draft every year and make it a live draft. Hey, we all obviously have computers and we can make time to use a live draft. I have done it this way many times and it is a lot more interesting and fun - took way too long last time to draft. Also, get rid of the individual defensesive players, go by team.
    We can vote on it... Some people can't make a live draft, and they are at a disadvantage.

    On individual D players. I think it adds a great deal of fun to the game... Just a small amount of research, and you can pick up solid players. Did people not like it last year? (I've always played that way)
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    My 2 cents:

    3 keepers, starting this year.

    Defensive Players rather than teams....way more fun and challenging!
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    Erm...

    How did we end up with 15 votes when we only have 12 teams signed up?

    Sheesh... Okay. Let's finish signing up, we have two slots left open, then we'll just sound off.
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    I'm against the idea of a keeper league. In fairness, each team should have an opportunity to draft different players each season without being restricted from players that would already be unavailable prior to the draft.

    Also, let's have a live draft.
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    Quote Originally posted by Big Easy King
    I'm against the idea of a keeper league. In fairness, each team should have an opportunity to draft different players each season without being restricted from players that would already be unavailable prior to the draft.

    Also, let's have a live draft.

    We can have a quick vote on a live draft, too. Some may want days... some nights... some might want to do it one here.

    Let's get these three out of the way. I'm going to keep a tally of the votes (it looks like if we do keepers, it'll only be 3) up on my original post.
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    If we end up doing a keeper, I hope someone has last years rosters. I know I don't know who all I had.
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    Quote Originally posted by giff57
    If we end up doing a keeper, I hope someone has last years rosters. I know I don't know who all I had.
    No no... we're starting a keeper league this year. We keep players from this years draft for next season.
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    Quote Originally posted by Mastiff
    No no... we're starting a keeper league this year. We keep players from this years draft for next season.

    Am I the only one who didn't know that? Can we vote if we want a keeper after the draft then
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    Quote Originally posted by giff57
    Am I the only one who didn't know that? Can we vote if we want a keeper after the draft then
    That's the only option. No way you can start a keeper league after the fact... So, just let me know your preference, and I'll post it!
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    Keeper league sounds awesome. I have been trying to implement this in the league I run with friends, but it always gets voted down.

    We need to make the decision before the draft because it should impact your strategy...like whether to take a promising rookie that may take a year or so to develop.
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    I voted for 3 keepers in the poll
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    Now this is getting serious....

    Wow.....this is really getting interesting - so many choices, I feel like I'm at a historic review committee meeting considering 16 different designs for a 19th century carriage house or something.....

    Long story short, I am okay with whatever the decisions may be on all of these different choices. Here are my comments though:

    An email draft versus a live draft is probably better given the reasons several people have already mentioned. It's only June for pete's sake - if we get going soon, there's no way Mastiff should have to pull another all-nighter getting all of the teams set on time

    Let's say we go with three keepers. Whomever gets the first pick has a huuuge advantage over the poor sap picking 14th. Assuming its serpentine, again poor #14 gets the pleasure of picking last in two of the three rounds. I'd knock the number of keepers down to 2 or up to 4 (or, as I voted previously, to none at all). That being said, is that where the one round of Rookie Draft would help provide some equity in that #14 would get to pick first in the rookie draft? I'm not sure I understood that correctly.....

    I'd suggest having a Defensive Team. I'm indifferent on the defensive players.

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    Quote Originally posted by plankton
    Wow.....this is really getting interesting - so many choices, I feel like I'm at a historic review committee meeting considering 16 different designs for a 19th century carriage house or something.....

    Long story short, I am okay with whatever the decisions may be on all of these different choices. Here are my comments though:

    An email draft versus a live draft is probably better given the reasons several people have already mentioned. It's only June for pete's sake - if we get going soon, there's no way Mastiff should have to pull another all-nighter getting all of the teams set on time

    Let's say we go with three keepers. Whomever gets the first pick has a huuuge advantage over the poor sap picking 14th. Assuming its serpentine, again poor #14 gets the pleasure of picking last in two of the three rounds. I'd knock the number of keepers down to 2 or up to 4 (or, as I voted previously, to none at all). That being said, is that where the one round of Rookie Draft would help provide some equity in that #14 would get to pick first in the rookie draft? I'm not sure I understood that correctly.....

    I'd suggest having a Defensive Team. I'm indifferent on the defensive players.
    Sooooo... yes or no on 3 keepers? (Believe me, the first 3 you draft will probably NOT be the ones you keep.)
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    Only 8 Votes!

    Five in favor. If you haven't voted IN THE THREAD, so your vote is listed in the first post, I need to know!
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    I voted for keepers.
    Too lazy to beat myself up for being to lazy to beat myself up for being too lazy to... well you get the point....

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    I voted for 3 keepers.
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