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    1893 Columbian Exposition - Chicago

    did the "White City" or "Grey City" from the World' s Fair burn during the Chicago Fire?

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    The great Chicago Fire was in 1871. The exposition was in 1893. I thought they disassembled it afterward.

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    Quote Originally posted by iamme
    The great Chicago Fire was in 1871. The exposition was in 1893. I thought they disassembled it afterward.
    IIRC, those buildings sat derelict for several years and then burned. From what I have read, it was a pretty spectacular fire.

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    Quote Originally posted by iamme
    The exposition was in 1893. I thought they disassembled it afterward.
    I seem to remember that as well.

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    I know that the church in the white city was disassembled and re-assembled in my hometown. In the 60s, the church using the building felt it was prudent to tear down the structure and erect a new "modern" church on the same site.

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    they were faux blgs. right?

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    What I've heard/read is the same as mgk920, most of it burned down.

    A few buildings did survive, though. The Palace of Fine Arts building became the Museum of Science and Industry, but the exterior had to be rebuilt in stone in either the 1920's or 30's in order to keep it from deteriorating (the buildings were originally made of plaster).

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    Quote Originally posted by Jack
    ...but the exterior had to be rebuilt in stone in either the 1920's or 30's in order to keep it from deteriorating (the buildings were originally made of plaster).
    Jack,
    You're right except that the Fine Arts/Museum of Science and Industry building was originally built with stone. It was intended to be the only permanent structure from the beginning.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

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    Quote Originally posted by mendelman
    Jack,
    You're right except that the Fine Arts/Museum of Science and Industry building was originally built with stone. It was intended to be the only permanent structure from the beginning.
    I originally thought that, but later came upon various sites like this one. They all said the exterior ornament was made of the same plaster material as the other buildings even though it was intended to be fireproof.

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    Quote Originally posted by Jack
    I originally thought that, but later came upon various sites like this one. They all said the exterior ornament was made of the same plaster material as the other buildings even though it was intended to be fireproof.
    Thank you for clarifying that for me. Chicago Landmarks website is a reliable source, I guess.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

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    Quote Originally posted by mendelman
    Thank you for clarifying that for me. Chicago Landmarks website is a reliable source, I guess.
    I figured I'd link to the website with the most impressive sounding name and address. After all, you just gotta believe a website when it has that many dots in the URL.

    What's the name of the town where the church was relocated?

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    Quote Originally posted by Jack
    I figured I'd link to the website with the most impressive sounding name and address. After all, you just gotta believe a website when it has that many dots in the URL.

    What's the name of the town where the church was relocated?
    boiker is in Peoria, IL.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

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    Many of the buildings were at least partially diasmantled. My former office contained several plaster friezes from the Columbian Exposition, based on Greek temples.
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    Let's not forget this book: The Devil in the White City : Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair That Changed America

    It described a in great detail the demise of the various buildings and their natural settings.

    We have discussed the book at Cyburbia: http://www.cyburbia.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7733

    Enjoy
    el Guapo is a former 20 year +/- urban planner (just like you).

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    Quote Originally posted by el Guapo
    Let's not forget this book: The Devil in the White City : Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair That Changed America

    It described a in great detail the demise of the various buildings and their natural settings.

    We have discussed the book at Cyburbia: http://www.cyburbia.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7733

    Enjoy
    I am guessing it is Fiction?
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    Quote Originally posted by mendelman
    boiker is in Peoria, IL.
    It was moved to Streator, IL used by St. Casmir's Parish

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    Quote Originally posted by boiker
    It was moved to Streator, IL used by St. Casmir's Parish
    Hometown - sorry me dummy
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    City of the Century (a nonfiction book about 1900s Chicago) had a description of what happened after the exposition. I do know many of the buildings were taken down and (appearently) moved. Some English guy came over specifically to fight to keep the buildings from all being torn down but, failing at that, he took up urban reform after seeing how the working man lived in Chicago and died on the Titanic while making one of his many trans-atlantic trips fighting the Man.

    At least one building did burn down, probably as the result of arson during the 1894 depression. I can't remember the details though.

    One building from the fair does still stand at the site. The Palace of Fine Arts was built out of stone instead of wood and plaster to protect the priceless works that were on display in it during the fair. It is now the Museum of Science and Industry.

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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis
    I am guessing it is Fiction?
    It is not. In fact, it is a dramatic retelling of real events that led up to the 1893 Columbian Exposition, intertwining the histories of an architect and a killer.

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    It's "non-fiction" like The Perfect Storm is "non-fiction." It's history with creative license added.

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    Science and Industry may be the only building left over, but weren't some of the street layouts and other design elements kept as well?

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    I was at Expo '67 in Montreal with my family, and I remember it as being a lot of fun. Pre-Disney World, and all. Have there been any expositions since then that have been successful, or are they now extinct?

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    Quote Originally posted by Zoning Goddess
    I was at Expo '67 in Montreal with my family, and I remember it as being a lot of fun. Pre-Disney World, and all. Have there been any expositions since then that have been successful, or are they now extinct?
    A few years ago in Hannover, Germany. I attended this event and it was very enjoyable.

    http://www.bmwworld.com/expo_2000.htm

    http://www.solo-photography.com/hannover.htm

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    Not everything was destroyed.

    Quote Originally posted by Whose Yur Planner
    Science and Industry may be the only building left over, but weren't some of the street layouts and other design elements kept as well?
    The more seedy Midway of the Fair was actually built on a median of a boulevard, which is now retention ponds and athletic fields for the University of Chicago. There are vestiges of the streets in the modern layout of Jackson Park.

    The Ho-o-den Shrine on the Fair's Wooded Island survived until the 50's, when a cigarette fire destroyed it.

    While the Palace of Fine Arts may have been built partially out of stone, it definitely wasn't built to last. It only survived the fire because of its extreme northern location within the grounds.

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