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    I don't drink any sweet wines EXCEPT I love ice wines.... not sure why. And...they ain't cheap!
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    I received email notice that my next shipment from Dry Creek Vineyards is on its way.

    2004 Old Vine Zinfandel
    Sonoma County

    2003 Beeson Ranch Zinfandel
    Dry Creek Valley
    The Beeson Ranch vineyard was planted in the late 1800's. Now that's old vine.

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    Quote Originally posted by RichmondJake View post
    I received email notice that my next shipment from Dry Creek Vineyards is on its way.



    The Beeson Ranch vineyard was planted in the late 1800's. Now that's old vine.
    How old are the ones in France?

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    Quote Originally posted by Zoning Goddess View post
    How old are the ones in France?
    Relatively young. The vines in France were attacked by the phylloxera aphid decades ago and they've all been replanted with New World root stock. Which begs the question: How did these old vines State-side survive the various phylloxera attacks over the years? Guess I better do some research.

    ___________

    A little bit more history on the phylloxera blight. I don't know how accurate this is. I've read elsewhere the European vineyards were attacked more recently. And of course, Napa and Sonoma vineyards were hit hard by a strain resistent to the AxR1 rootstock about 20-years ago.

    http://www.wampumkeeper.com/wineblight.html
    Last edited by Richmond Jake; 24 May 2007 at 9:28 PM. Reason: AxR1 rootstock

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    Barefoot Bubbly. Brut Cuvee.

    Good sparkling wine at a reasonable price.

    You can thank me later.

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    [QUOTE=RichmondJake;386187]Good sparkling wine at a reasonable price./QUOTE]
    That would me Blue Nun that you speak of?
    You darn tootin', I like fig newtons!

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    [QUOTE=sisterceleste;386193]
    Quote Originally posted by RichmondJake View post
    Good sparkling wine at a reasonable price./QUOTE]
    That would me Blue Nun that you speak of?
    You've been drinking on the Nun today, right?

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    [QUOTE=sisterceleste;386193]
    Quote Originally posted by RichmondJake View post
    Good sparkling wine at a reasonable price./QUOTE]
    That would me Blue Nun that you speak of?
    I get the sense that RJ thinks "Blue Nun" and "wine" shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence.....mutually exclusive terms or something....

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    A Near Tragedy Averted

    I was loading the washing machine this evening and noticed some dampness on the foil of a bottle of 1996 Truchard, Carneros, merlot. Cork failure...damn. My quick thinking immediately rescued the bottle….it’s drinking quite well this evening, thanks to my eagle sharp eyes.

    Last edited by Richmond Jake; 04 Jun 2007 at 9:43 PM. Reason: added image...just thought of it

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    RJ - Even you know that a laundry room is to hot to store wine.
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    Sheesh, RJ, upping your image. In the pic, your eyeglass cleaners... and your Stephanie Plum book...

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    Quote Originally posted by JNA View post
    RJ - Even you know that a laundry room is to hot to store wine.
    Do you mean "too" hot? The environment is pretty good out there. The room is air-conditioned. And the Florida humidity is good for the wines. It was probably suffered accelerated damaged during the move.
    And it's a good thing I have nothing on tomorrow's Board agenda tomorrow...


    Quote Originally posted by ZG
    Sheesh, RJ, upping your image. In the pic, your eyeglass cleaners... and your Stephanie Plum book...
    I should have displayed the business cards of all the Cyburbians I met in Philly....just left of the image.

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    2001 Beringer, Knights Valley, cabernet sauvignon. Worthy of attention, IMHO.

    went well with the BBQ rib eye.

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    Quote Originally posted by RichmondJake View post
    2001 Beringer, Knights Valley, cabernet sauvignon. Worthy of attention, IMHO.

    went well with the BBQ rib eye.
    A glass of a cheap red... and a couple glasses of Smirnoff.. going well with the heady aroma of duck tape and packing boxes...

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    Wine sucks. I hate the way it makes me feel. I've probably only drank it four or five times or so in my life. I much prefer beer or hard alcohol.

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    Quote Originally posted by Zoning Goddess View post
    A glass of a cheap red... and a couple glasses of Smirnoff.. going well with the heady aroma of duck tape and packing boxes...
    You easy Southern trash. Welcome aboard!!!

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    Until I finished the book "The House of Mondavi", I didn't know the family on longer owned the Robert Mondavi Winery in Oakville CA. It's been owned for a few years by Constellation Brands from upstate New York. That one completely went under my radar. Charles Krug (including the CK Mondavi brand), is still owned by the Peter Mondavi family (Robert's brother). I'll need to adjust my wine purchasing habits.

    This industry changes so fast...and the land use issues...Wow!

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    My parents recently went through OK on a road trip, and stopped at a couple of wineries along the way. I didn't know that OK had wineries - and evidently they aren't well kown outside of their little areas.

    Mom picked up a bottle of each of these:

    Cowboy Cab
    OK Doky Red (merlot)

    She also got a couple of whites, but I can't remember the names. She's going to give them to some friends from OK as gag gifts.

    And I expect gag is the appropriate response to these wines . . .
    "We do not need any other Tutankhamun's tomb with all its treasures. We need context. We need understanding. We need knowledge of historical events to tie them together. We don't know much. Of course we know a lot, but it is context that's missing, not treasures." - Werner Herzog, in Archaeology, March/April 2011

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    Just had a Cab from the the Frog's Leap Vineyard..........Tasty.

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    I am so curious about how the botles I brought back from Napa taste. I need to find a special occaison to crack one.

    I drank the peju to kill a recent pain and realized that was not an effective use of an OK bottle of wine. I know the Cakebread and definitely the Duckhorn deserve better.
    Too lazy to beat myself up for being to lazy to beat myself up for being too lazy to... well you get the point....

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    Sipping on 2005 Folie A Deux, menage a trois. A blend of zinfandel, merlot and cabernet sauvignon. Picked it up for less than $9 at Sam's Club. I add it to my list of recommended red wines.

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    I think this is sad. The large corporations taking over the boutique wineries. The loss of family owned vineyards and family operated wineries signals the end of a very romantic period of wine production in California. What's next: Villa Mt. Walmart?

    I guess that's the way it goes....sigh.

    NAPA VALLEY STUNNER - FAMED WINERY SOLD
    Vintner Warren Winiarski, the first to take California Cabernet to Paris and come home a winner, sells Stag’s Leap for $185 million — and the Wine Country evolves


    The family-owned winery that put Napa Valley on equal footing with Bordeaux is no longer all in the family.

    Warren Winiarski, the former Chicago academic whose 1973 Cabernet Sauvignon stunned the world by beating France's best in the famous Judgment of Paris tasting, stunned the Wine Country when he announced Monday he had sold his Stag's Leap Wine Cellars to a joint venture of Italy's Marchese Piero Antinori and Ste. Michelle Wine Estates, Washington state's largest winery, for $185 million.

    The transaction is a big step down the corporate path for the renowned valley, where wineries once were strictly family enterprises. It also was just one of three major sales in the valley this week.



    Some recent sales of individual wineries in Napa Valley:

    $185 million
    1. Stag's Leap Wine Cellars, sold to Marchese Piero Antinori of Italy and Ste. Michelle Wine Estates of Washington state this week

    $14.2 billion
    2. Atlas Peak, part of a 10-winery deal to Fortune Brands in April 2005

    $1.36 billion
    3. Robert Mondavi Winery, sold to Constellation in December 2004

    Undisclosed price
    4. Louis M. Martini, sold to Gallo in September 2002

    $47.5 million
    5. Newton Vineyard, along with Mount Adam estate in southern Australia, sold to Louis Vuitton Moet Hennessy in January 2001

    $1.5 billion
    6. Beringer Vineyards, sold to Fosters in August 2000
    Here's the full story.... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNFBRAN0I3.DTL

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    From my recent trip, brought home the following BC wines:

    2004 Tinhorn Creek Merlot - Okanogan VQA

    2004 - Cedar Creek Estate Select - Okanogan VQA

    My plan is to buy a bottle or 2 of good wine a month over the coming year for my graduation party.

    RJ you should really check out the movie mondovino. it tells an interesting tale about how the wine industry is changing and how flavours are being shaped by a very few people.

    http://www.mondovinofilm.com/
    Too lazy to beat myself up for being to lazy to beat myself up for being too lazy to... well you get the point....

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    Has anyone found a sparkling reisling? I'm on the hunt.

    RJ, you've got tastes similar to those in my house. I've been a huge fan of Columbia Winery since visiting last year- they're Barbera merlot was quite good. I think it was only a release for the winery though so unless I can figure out how to order it online I can't more unless we go back.
    When Jesus said "love your enemies", he probably didn't mean kill them.

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    Quote Originally posted by Habanero View post
    Has anyone found a sparkling reisling? I'm on the hunt.
    Can't say that I've ever had a sparkling wine made from riesling. Can't do the research at work as all the alcohol related sites are banned by IT. I'll look from home tonight.



    BTW, we're all on the hunt at many points in our lives.

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