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    Auto repair out of a house?

    Hey all, I had a pre-application conference with someone who wishes to have an auto repair business out of his house. He would use the garage to conduct the repairs and park the vehicles on his lot. (Because of a loop hole in the zone he is in, he may be able to do this, depending on neighborhood opposition)
    Is there anything like this out there in Cyburbia?
    Anything I should watch for?
    Anything I should require through conditions?
    You get all squeezed up inside/Like the days were carved in stone/You get all wired up inside/And it's bad to be alone

    You can go out, you can take a ride/And when you get out on your own/You get all smoothed out inside/And it's good to be alone
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    Text amendment to prohibit it? Seriously, not a residential home occupation use.

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    I'd be concerned about pollution control and vehicle storage concerns, personally. If it was one car at a time, even two or three, and the repairs were clean, it probably wouldn't be an issue - but auto repair usually generates a lot of toxics (oil, fluids, etc) which must be mitigated, and they may require a lot of parking to store cars at.

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    Well, I thin we may have scared him off with our requirements and the subsequent costs of improving the site. I was just wondering if it exists out there.
    You get all squeezed up inside/Like the days were carved in stone/You get all wired up inside/And it's bad to be alone

    You can go out, you can take a ride/And when you get out on your own/You get all smoothed out inside/And it's good to be alone
    -Peart

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    Ugh. One reason I don't fully buy into the libertarian "get rid of zoning" ideals that tempt me sometimes.

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    As always, when dealing with WT/RN planning issues I've delt with this before.

    Here is the text I wrote to address this for my last employer. We delt with it as a "home occupation". And yes, at some point in time I was asked if someone could have every one of these as a home occupation.

    notwithstanding any other provisions of this by-law a home occupation shall not include any of the following uses:
    i) the storage or parking of more than one tractor trailer, semi-trailers on or near a residential property;
    ii) the storage or parking of heavy equipment on or near a residential property;
    iii) motor vehicle repair establishment;
    iv) sale or rental of motor vehicles including but not limited to automobiles, ATVís, travel trailers, boats and / or personal watercraft;
    v) kennel;
    vi) recycling depot;
    vii) salvage yard; and
    viii) taxi stand.
    Too lazy to beat myself up for being to lazy to beat myself up for being too lazy to... well you get the point....

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    This comes up a lot in our county. If the lot is in a subdivision it probably violates the subdivision approval. Auto repair is not a home occupation, at least not in our county. Might be able to prevent it if there is a "no noxious activities" type clause in the covenants or zoning regulations. Good luck
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    Road Trip....

    If you want to know what this will look like and how it would feel to live in a neighborhood thats full of this SH&#.....take a nice 4 1/2 hour drive over to Meeker, Colorado and/or Rangely......Entire neighborhoods filled with this type of activity.....nice home....Major auto repair....nice home.....woodworking site....

    Oh, there is always the added concern that a transmission will roll down the hill and kill little suzy ....or that that engine on the blocks will slip and crush little bobby ...or that pool of transmission oil/brake fluid/steering fluid/anti-freeze/whatever Billy Bob plays in will get him violently sick .....or the occasional errant tire/lug nut...and on and on and on......
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    Quote Originally posted by The One
    If you want to know what this will look like and how it would feel to live in a neighborhood thats full of this SH&#.....take a nice 4 1/2 hour drive over to Meeker, Colorado and/or Rangely......Entire neighborhoods filled with this type of activity.....nice home....Major auto repair....nice home.....woodworking site....

    Oh, there is always the added concern that a transmission will roll down the hill and kill little suzy ....or that that engine on the blocks will slip and crush little bobby ...or that pool of transmission oil/brake fluid/steering fluid/anti-freeze/whatever Billy Bob plays in will get him violently sick .....or the occasional errant tire/lug nut...and on and on and on......
    HEY HEY HEY, watch it Bud. I have family in Meeker. Just kidding, I do have family there though, and I am going up there next month so I will check the town out and look for such practices.
    You get all squeezed up inside/Like the days were carved in stone/You get all wired up inside/And it's bad to be alone

    You can go out, you can take a ride/And when you get out on your own/You get all smoothed out inside/And it's good to be alone
    -Peart

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    Its All Good

    Quote Originally posted by zmanPLAN
    HEY HEY HEY, watch it Bud. I have family in Meeker. Just kidding, I do have family there though, and I am going up there next month so I will check the town out and look for such practices.
    You know I like to have fun.....while making a point.....he he he...
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    Quote Originally posted by The One
    there is always the added concern that a transmission will roll down the hill and kill little suzy ....or that that engine on the blocks will slip and crush little bobby ...or that pool of transmission oil/brake fluid/steering fluid/anti-freeze/whatever Billy Bob plays in will get him violently sick .....or the occasional errant tire/lug nut...and on and on and on......
    HEY! Be careful there, you might need an automotive specialist one day. They are not all uneducated idiots, you know...

    *Married to my mechanic*

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    Now that I think back, my family when I was a kid used to patronize one of those backyard/garage mechanics. It works better in low density settings (this was a quarter-acre-lot, semi-rural-built-under-county-standards kind of subdivision). In dense and expensive California, it would be a potential nightmare

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    registered auto repair are not the problem

    The problem with auto repair in residential zones is when joe bob does not have a permit to conduct a home occupation because he is working on his own personal cars (yeah right) strewn all over his property. In this last scenario, it is difficult to enforce on someone who doesn't have a permit and what would you enforce...working on your personal vehicle from your home? NOW, when they actually get the permits, they will have to sign several documents stating they can comply with certain regulations...now you have a hammer if they get out of line. Again, the trouble makers are generally the people that don't even bother to get a permit.

    Our Home occupation restricts auto repair by:
    one customer at a time by appointment,
    Only people working in home occupation live at residence,
    no outside storage of equipment (cars, engines, tires)
    No loud electrical tools, compressors, or open flame welding (this restricts the type of auto repair, we don't want any moron blowing themselves up when they find the gas tank)
    The best counter for this, there should be something in your building code which requires improvements for attached garages when auto repair (due to the nature of the use) require improvements such as a 1-hour fire rated wall.


    Quote Originally posted by zmanPLAN
    Hey all, I had a pre-application conference with someone who wishes to have an auto repair business out of his house. He would use the garage to conduct the repairs and park the vehicles on his lot. (Because of a loop hole in the zone he is in, he may be able to do this, depending on neighborhood opposition)
    Is there anything like this out there in Cyburbia?
    Anything I should watch for?
    Anything I should require through conditions?

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