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    Towns Hand Out Tax Breaks, Then Cry Foul as Jobs Leave

    Headline from the New York Times, October 20, 2004
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    "Most communities that lose business afterward lick their wounds and walk away, as Putnam County plans to do. But in Galesburg, some people have decided to take a stand, and it has split this community, showing the challenges of fighting back against a corporation."

    "...some people say they are afraid that they may scare off future employers. They question whether suing to reclaim tax breaks will hurt the community even more, adding that they have to pay companies to compete and that it is the cost of doing business in a vulnerable town."

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    While it can be a good tool, I think that the tax incentives have gotten a little nuts. The cities here compete against each other and end up giving too much away. I remember when they were used to bring in large employers like Boeing, Intel, and Motorola. Seems now it is okay for Costco, Wally's, and other retailers to get the discount. They are trying to control the handouts here, but the mayors are divided. Go figure.

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    Your right....

    The tax incentives have been used poorly (mainly pushed by city managers trying to look good) without much thought into the ethics or future of the City. Example: Giving one local supermarket a multi-million $ break but not another (simply because one is aesthetically more pleasing....) Limiting competition and creating higher prices for residents anyway....
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    I've said it before, and I'll say it again.....stories like this make me glad that I work in NH, where there is no such thing as tax incentives.
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    There are numerous fundemental flaws in the way most incentive programss are conceived. That is one of the themes of an article I am currently writing to challenge the economic development profession. Problems include competition that leads a state like South Carolin to give Mercedes $167,000 per job(!) to the very notion of job creation as the primary purpose. What if, instead of requiring Maytag to create jobs as a condition of its incentive, the city had worked with thte company to fund changes that would have reduced operating costs and raise productivity, so that it could effectively compete with inexpensive labor in Mexico? Sure, some jobs might have been lost, but the company might still be there.
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    Interesting article. I think in the case of Maytag the town erred in part by not considering the fact that, in terms of employment, manufacturing in this country has been declining for a very long time as the economy shifts from goods-based to service-based. It is nobody's fault, just the ongoing march of globalization. In other words, they were throwing good money after bad.

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    We have a really flawed system here.

    In New York, State Comptroller Alan G. Hevesi said in an audit this year that a program that gives millions of dollars in tax breaks to businesses that promise to create work ended up rewarding some businesses that lost jobs. Other state officials disputed those findings.
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