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    The 2004 election exit poll and voting results thread

    So far, exit polls say ...

    FL: 52/48 - KERRY
    OH: 52/47 - KERRY
    MI: 51/48 - KERRY
    PA: 58/42 - KERRY
    IA: 50/48 - KERRY
    WI: 53/47 - KERRY
    MN: 57/42 - KERRY
    NH: 58/41 - KERRY
    ME: 55/44 - KERRY

    NM: 49/49 - TIE

    NV: 48/49 - BUSH
    CO: 49/50 - BUSH
    AR: 45/54 - BUSH
    NC: 47/53 - BUSH


    (from http://www.wonkette.com)
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    [sarcasm]
    It's nice to see Nadar with such a strong showing in the exit polls.
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    Dan - what's the margin of error on these polls?
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    well...the big ones seem to be not in Bush's favor, at least by this post.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

    Let's not be didactic in this profession, because that is a path to disillusion and irrelevancy.

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    Do we really want to believe in a site called 'wonkette'? It's hard to take anything to do with the word 'wonk' seriously.

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    Wonkette rules! Her site is on my list of daily visits. The others are Cyburbia, JSonline (Milwaukee newspaper), Drudge Report, Pitchforkmedia, and ESPN.
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    Link no work - overloaded ?
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    Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
    Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
    Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
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    Wonkette is very, very slow. The latest:

    6:50 p.m.
    6 p.m. exit polls -- not internals.

    K/B:
    FL 51 49
    NC 48 52
    OH 51 49
    Missouri 46 54
    Ark 47 53
    Mich 51 47
    NM 50 49
    LA 43 56
    CO 48 51
    AZ 45 55
    Minn 54 44
    Wisc 52 47
    IA 49 49


    NBC says Bush has Georgia, Kentucky and Indiana; Kerry has Vermont.
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    I cant get on to wonkette and your link looks like a big blue rectangle

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    Highlight the text. It's a spoiler for those that don't want to see exit polls.

    EDIT: 77-66 Kerry
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    Edit: state-by-state returns at http://election.cbsnews.com/election2004/
    Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell. -- Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally posted by Chet
    I cant get on to wonkette and your link looks like a big blue rectangle
    What he saids.

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    Quote Originally posted by RichmondJake
    What he saids.
    I'll say it again, although ti doesn't matter now.

    HIGHLIGHT THE BLUE-ON-BLUE TEXT IN THE BOX!!
    Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell. -- Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally posted by Dan
    I'll say it again, although ti doesn't matter now.

    HIGHLIGHT THE BLUE-ON-BLUE TEXT IN THE BOX!!
    You think i'm a 'puter nerd or something? Highlight?? This got something to do with my hair? Not touching my hair.

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    Massive. Civil. Unrest.

    If Bush really won, the next four years are going to be uhhh-gleeee. Not necessarily a civil war, but it won't be pretty.

    God. Guns. Gays.
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    That's all this farkign country is about. I thought this was more.

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    Off to bed. Four more years. Yeah, I feel a whole lot safer from the terrists. Strategery. We get the leadership we deserve.

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    Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell. -- Edward Abbey

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    If these b.s. exit polls and Zogby's 5-point Kerry lead don't prove liberal media exists, I don't know what does.

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    3:07 on the East Coast and Dan Rather is pumped, so far I've caught "bark at the moon" and "that's our song and we're goona sing it all night long", he really is a few smokes short a pack.

    Putting the electoral vote aside and looking at the popular vote, I couldn't help but tell my family again that the majority (by 3%) of voters are culturally conservative and while many of those voters may disagree with some of Bush's policies, they'd like to see him finish the work he started. I have a few ideas for the Dems but they're not popular.

    My 2cents for now.
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    Well, Ohio is still technically in play, but I imagine we'll see nearly all of the provisional ballots thrown out by conservative justices over the next week. So in reality, this is a Bush victory.

    What should frighten any sane American is the realization (as I'm sure the demographers will soon point out) that Bush has won this election on the strength of the Evangelical Christian vote. While that group has historically been slow to vote on matters of religious dogma, they are now clearly willing to vote as a bloc to push their doctrinal worldview into the government.

    This is frightening because the rise of Fundamentalism in that group, in that they are now very aggressively trying to make their religion the de-facto state religion of the United States, strikes at the heart of the pluralist religious system on which this country is based.

    This has very severe and troubling implications both domestically and internationally. How can we possibly have constructive dialogs with, say, Muslim nations when our state religion declares them to be evil? How can we seek to advance the sciences when our state religion's literal interpretation of the Bible deems basic scientific principles like evolution to be heresy? And how can we possibly continue to be the nation with the richest and most diverse religious life on the planet when our government takes one of the thousands of religions practiced here and elevates its dogma to be the rule of the land?

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    Quote Originally posted by valhallan
    If these b.s. exit polls and Zogby's 5-point Kerry lead don't prove liberal media exists, I don't know what does.
    I'll say it for the umteenth time.

    THERE IS NO LIBERAL MEDIA!

    http://www.thatliberalmedia.com/
    http://pearlyabraham.tripod.com/htmls/myth-media.html
    http://www.bartcop.com/libmedia.htm
    http://www.buzzflash.com/perspective...edia_Bias.html
    http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-liberalmedia.htm

    ... and too many more.

    Quote Originally posted by jordanb
    This is frightening because the rise of Fundamentalism in that group, in that they are now very aggressively trying to make their religion the de-facto state religion of the United States, strikes at the heart of the pluralist religious system on which this country is based.
    I can't say it better myself. Thank you, jordanb.

    I'll be honest ... I'm really scared for the future of this country. Really. I'm a moderate liberal who is not a straight-ticket voter, who voted for Ronald Reagan in 1984, and I'm really afraid of the future.
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    I love when liberals get offended when you call them such.....and when you refer to the liberal media. Please, these exit polls, CBS, the New York Times, CNN....if you can't call that liberal media??

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    To echo Dan:

    Off-topic:
    Quote Originally posted by valhallan
    If these b.s. exit polls and Zogby's 5-point Kerry lead don't prove liberal media exists, I don't know what does.
    C'mon, you complain about the stereotypical lefty/liberal talking points, but you repeat the stereotypical righty/conservative talking points (evil liberal media ).

    There are partisan and non-partisan media outlets - accept it and move on.


    Back on topic:
    Well, it appears that Bush most likely will win, but, thankfully, Ohio is still not certified.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

    Let's not be didactic in this profession, because that is a path to disillusion and irrelevancy.

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    Anyone else share my sense of impending doom about pretty much everything? I see what's left of our foreign relations, civil rights and fairness in general going down the toilet. I also have a wretched feeling that the s*&t is really going to hit the fan in Iraq now. The worst part to me is that 90% of the people I know who voted for W cannot articulate why they did.

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    Disappointed = YES

    Suprised = NO

    I make a motion to "Move On"

    Throwing mud and insults only hurts feelings. We have all vented and slung Sh!t at one another for the last two weeks.

    Can I get support to my motion.

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    Quote Originally posted by PlannerByDay
    Can I get support to my motion.
    I'll second that (e)motion!
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

    Let's not be didactic in this profession, because that is a path to disillusion and irrelevancy.

    Six seasons and a movie!

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    4 more years. How bleak.
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    I guessed this one all wrong. I really didn't think Kerry had a chance in FL, but thought that Ohio might be reasonable. Wow, I don't know what Democrats have to do to get elected to national office if they couldn't beat Bush. For an incumbent President, Bush's image was pretty low--- much less popular nationally than Clinton was when he was reelected. The Democrats had so much passion on their side, too, but it just couldn't outweigh the fact that we live in a deeply Christian conservative country at this time and all those votes went to Bush.

    The Senatre and House elections were a disaster, too. The Supreme Court will be conservative for a LONG time now.... what a nightmare for progressives. I'm sure the Bush people are chomping at the bit to raise Scalia to Chief Justice now. *shudder*

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