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Poll results: Where are you? (education vs job level)

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  • No Planning Education/ Below mid level

    0 0%
  • No Planning Education/ Above mid level

    2 6.06%
  • BS from accredited/ Below mid level

    0 0%
  • BS from accredited/ Above mid level

    1 3.03%
  • BS other/ Below mid level

    2 6.06%
  • BS other/ Above mid level

    6 18.18%
  • MA from accredited/ Below mid level

    7 21.21%
  • MA from accredited/ Above mid level

    7 21.21%
  • MA other/ Below mid level

    0 0%
  • MA other/ Above mid level

    1 3.03%
  • PhD/ Below mid level

    1 3.03%
  • PhD/ Above mid level

    0 0%
  • Other, explained below

    6 18.18%
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Thread: Education = position?

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    Cyburbian michaelskis's avatar
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    Education = position?

    The One thought I should do a Survey and I think he is right!

    For me, right now I have a BS in "Planning" from a non-accredited university, a wee bit below mid range right now.

    But I start my maters program in Jan... so who know!
    Last edited by michaelskis; 16 Nov 2004 at 3:57 PM.

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    Moderator note:
    Poll edited to include "other"


    I'm in the "other" category.

    Degrees, both from Accredited University: BUPD (Bachelor of Urban Planning & Development, 5 Year Professional Degree)
    BS in Environmental Design

    Position: Above Mid: Town Planner (essentially Asst. Director under Department Head).
    Last edited by NHPlanner; 11 May 2005 at 4:56 PM.
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    Cyburbian Cardinal's avatar
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    Master of science in geography, economic development director in a city of 100,000.
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    Cyburbian Plus
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    BS in Geography
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    Senior Planner, exp. 12+ yrs, Combined City/County w/ pop. of 170,000+
    Last edited by JNA; 16 Nov 2004 at 5:35 PM.
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    Cyburbian Breed's avatar
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    BS - Community and Regional Planning (not planning accredited)
    BS - Geography
    Job - Demographer/Associate Planner (Pop: 400,000)

    edited to add job info
    Last edited by Breed; 16 Nov 2004 at 4:16 PM.
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    Accredited MURP, accredited and semi-relevant BA, senior planner in major metro area.
    Last edited by Plannerbabs; 16 Nov 2004 at 4:29 PM.
    I don't dream. I plan.

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    Cyburbian donk's avatar
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    My education. BA accredited program. Position in career low to mid level even with 8 years. Though tit would be a lateral step, but turns out it was quite a few backwards.
    Too lazy to beat myself up for being to lazy to beat myself up for being too lazy to... well you get the point....

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    Cyburbian The One's avatar
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis
    The One thought I should do a Survey and I think he is right!

    For me, right now I have a BS in "Planning" from a non-accredited university, a wee bit below mid range right now.

    But I start my maters program in Jan... so who know!

    Good poll michaelskis
    MURP accredited university
    B.A. Geography
    AICP
    Senior Planner City of 40,000
    Skilled Adoxographer

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    Education: BS from a non-accredited school,
    Position: Senior Project Planner for private company
    Pay: About average

    On the line for a position as an Office Manager/Planning Director, should find out in a couple weeks.

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    moderator in moderation Suburb Repairman's avatar
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    BS in Geography-Urban & Regional Planning (not accredited by APA)

    working on MPA w/ urban planning emphasis

    Planning Director in small town; pay below average (due to experience)

    "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

    - Herman Göring at the Nuremburg trials (thoughts on democracy)

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    Education: MUP from accredited University
    Position: Entry level moving to new job which is lateral step
    Pay: present job just above average - new job way above average
    Last edited by mendelman; 17 Nov 2004 at 11:09 AM.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

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    Cyburbian biscuit's avatar
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    Education: BA in Urban Studies with a concentration in Urban Planning and Administration.

    Position: Currently a community development planner, but moving into a position as a neighborhood planner after he New Year. It's a lateral move but one that has me doing something I enjoy and puts me in place for a promotion sooner.(pop: 335,000)

    Pay: Probably average nationally for a Planner 2, but higher than what many municipalities in the region pay.
    Last edited by biscuit; 17 Nov 2004 at 10:58 AM.

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    Cyburbian Plus Whose Yur Planner's avatar
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    Education: BS in Public Administration, classes toward a Masters in same subject.
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    16 years of experience, 7 as a planning director/zoning administrator
    Job: Planning Director/Building Commissioner for county of 130,000+ on the fringe/in a major metropolitian area
    Pay: ask me no questions/I'll tell you no lies.

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    Cyburbian Plus Salmissra's avatar
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    Education:
    BA in Political Science
    MCRP from accredited school

    Experience:
    4+ years, including starting at intern. Time off in the middle to do other stuff (not all by choice)

    Pay:
    for education level, I'm below pay level.
    for experience, I'm about average.
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    MUP from an accredited school
    BA Geography and Cert. of Urban Studies from a non-accredited school
    AICP

    I'm probably about average given my experience and education.

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    BA, Environmental Studies & Planning - not accedited by APA
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    Right now, feeling very intimidated. I have no planning education, my only qualification being a life-long resident and having been appointed. Thank heavens we have an excelent staff a the county level to tell us when we are about to screw up.

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    Cyburbian Michele Zone's avatar
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    Quote Originally posted by nighthawk1959
    Right now, feeling very intimidated. I have no planning education, my only qualification being a life-long resident and having been appointed. Thank heavens we have an excelent staff a the county level to tell us when we are about to screw up.
    You got me beat: I have more education but I don't so much as have an appointment -- just a big fat mouth and dreams. Not sure I should participate in this thread at all. Oops, too late.

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    Cyburbian plankton's avatar
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    Education: BS Civil Engineering
    Position: Planning Director, small city (5k)
    Pay: Above average

    I feel very fortunate to have my position. Our permit coordinator has a Masters in Planning if that means anything...??

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    Education:
    Bachelors in Environmental Design
    Bachelors in Construction Science

    Worked 1+ Yrs. in Construction. More or less mostly as liason between Architect and Company.

    Then, Master's In Urban Planning

    Job: Still trying to find that elusive first city planning job here in Texas. Next goal after job is to go for AICP. Then Aviation Planning.

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    Cyburbian michaelskis's avatar
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    Quote Originally posted by nighthawk1959
    Right now, feeling very intimidated. I have no planning education, my only qualification being a life-long resident and having been appointed. Thank heavens we have an excelent staff a the county level to tell us when we are about to screw up.
    Sometimes not having a planning education is a great thing. Sometimes we are almost brain washed with crazy facts and tend to look at things differently than non-planning educated people. We also can loose sight of what the end result is, and that is to make the best possible community for citizens like you. The fact that you don’t have the formal education, but are an appointed member of a board is a truly important thing as to you can bring the concerns of you and your neighbors to light when many planners might overlook some issues.

    It is not anything to feel bad about, it is a good thing because we could not do what we do without citizen planners like you.

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    Wow, I just noticed something interesting. There are the same numbers of people who have a BS from a non accredited program in above midlevel jobs, as people with Masters from accredited programs in below mid level jobs.

    (at this point both have 6)

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    Cyburbian PlannerByDay's avatar
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis
    Wow, I just noticed something interesting. There are the same numbers of people who have a BS from a non accredited program in above midlevel jobs, as people with Masters from accredited programs in below mid level jobs.

    (at this point both have 6)
    And it is for that reason my friend, that I do not plan on getting my masters any time soon.

    I am on the line for a high position and I do not have a masters or an AICP, but I do have almost 7 years of experience in consulting and that is priceless.

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    moderator in moderation Suburb Repairman's avatar
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis
    Wow, I just noticed something interesting. There are the same numbers of people who have a BS from a non accredited program in above midlevel jobs, as people with Masters from accredited programs in below mid level jobs.

    (at this point both have 6)
    That's because PAB = out of touch with real world planning 8-|

    "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

    - Herman Göring at the Nuremburg trials (thoughts on democracy)

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