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    Cyburbia Administrator Dan's avatar
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    Possessive blue collar bar names and casual usage

    Here in Cleveland, and in most blue collar neighborhoods back in Buffalo, many bars and restaurants have names in the form of [possessive owner's name] [some other name] [Bar/Grill/Tavern/Inn/Hotel/House/Tap/something else]. For example ...

    Joe's Lakeside Inn
    Eddie's Oak Hill Tavern
    Dino's Lady Luck Lounge
    Vinnie's Old Town Grill
    Chuck's Manor House Tap

    ... and so on. (These places don't exist; they're just examples of the naming scheme.)

    In casual conversation, what would I call these places ...

    Joe's
    Eddie's
    Dino's
    Vinnie's
    Chuck's

    or

    Lakeside Inn
    Oak Hill Tavern
    Lady Luck Lounge
    Old Town Grill
    Manor House Tap

    or

    Joe's Lakeside
    Eddie's Oak Hill
    Dino's Lady Luck
    Vinnie's Old Town
    Chuck's Manor House

    or something else? Dive bar aficionado Cyburbians must know!
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    A local dive in Kalamazoo is called the "Duck In Waddle Out", there's also "The Home Bar" "The HiLo", "The Green Top" and my Department's favorite dive "Walt's Lounge" (which is really the only true 'possesive' dive we have here except maybe "CJ's")
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    While waiting to congratulate Maister:

    Sam's Bar and Grill is always just plain "Sam's" (great green chili won tons, BTW)
    The Hitching Post Tavern is just "the Post"
    Close Quarters is known as "the club" to all planners
    Kelsey's and Tucker's bars and grills are to avoided at all costs.
    Je suis Charlie

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    Quote Originally posted by Dan
    In casual conversation, what would I call these places ...

    Joe's
    Eddie's
    Dino's
    Vinnie's
    Chuck's
    I always refer to these places by their possessive. Joe's, Teke's, Shab's, Salata's, Omar's are a couple of the hometown ones I used to visit. There are so many possessive bars in my hometown that I found it somewhat strange to see creative names on bars... and very strange to see bar and grill in the same business name.
    Dude, I'm cheesing so hard right now.

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    there's a bar attached to the house in the middle of nowhere in the Colorado mountains called Corrigan's Stage Stop. Dive of a bar, but a good place for a beer and the ONLY place to watch Notre Dame within 100 miles.

    The menu is complete with frozen Tombstone Pizzas, chicken strips and chips.
    You get all squeezed up inside/Like the days were carved in stone/You get all wired up inside/And it's bad to be alone

    You can go out, you can take a ride/And when you get out on your own/You get all smoothed out inside/And it's good to be alone
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    bars

    Finally a thread I know something about!

    Cutsey play on words:

    Dew Drop In
    Crow Bar

    Deliberately misleading:

    The library
    The office

    Appropriate nicknames

    The Outpost - The Outhouse
    The Townhouse - The Clown House

    And just wrong:

    St Anthony's - A so called "club" and one of the diviest dives I've ever been in. I should have known that ANY bar that you walk down a flight of steps to get into is bad.
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    The Jolly Trolly - ever been there Gedunker ?

    For any LBI Bums - Hudson House

    For UCD - Soapy Smith's

    Breckenridge - Shamus O'Toole's, Fatty's
    Oddball
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    Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
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    My favorite corner bar name: Bob's Branch Office - Kenmore, NY
    'Planning Rockstar in training';-)

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    Quote Originally posted by Tom R
    Deliberately misleading:

    The library
    The office
    ...surprised no one has mentioned the Deliberately Leading!

    Man Hole
    Woody's
    Beansnapper's
    Tart Mart
    Ballgame

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    Quote Originally posted by JNA
    The Jolly Trolly - ever been there Gedunker ?
    I've polluted my liver in a lot of places, some good and some not. Alas, the Jolly Trolly is not one of them. Is that back in NJ? Frankly, I hesitate to patronize any establishment with "jolly" in its name (sorry jolly folks).
    Je suis Charlie

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    Quote Originally posted by Gedunker
    I've polluted my liver in a lot of places, some good and some not. Alas, the Jolly Trolly is not one of them. Is that back in NJ? Frankly, I hesitate to patronize any establishment with "jolly" in its name (sorry jolly folks).
    Yes, it is back in NJ, North Avenue next to the train and Fire Stations.
    Oddball
    Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
    Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
    Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
    From Kelly's Heroes (1970)


    Are you sure you're not hurt ?
    No. Just some parts wake up faster than others.
    Broke parts take a little longer, though.
    From Electric Horseman (1979)

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    Quote Originally posted by Dan
    Joe's Lakeside
    Eddie's Oak Hill
    Dino's Lady Luck
    Vinnie's Old Town
    Chuck's Manor House
    I think I would go with these ways of saying it. If you say "Joe's, Eddie's, or Chuck's people may think you spend too much time there. If you say "Joes Lakeside Inn" they will know that haven't really been there much. The shortened versions above are perfect. They let the person you are talking to know that you aren't the drunk at the end of the bar, yet you aren't a teetotaler either. Just a guy that likes the intamacy and cast of characters found at a corner dive.
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    At a now-closed bar in Perrysburg, OH, called THE TOURIST INN, we folks who were "in" and "cool" called it CLUB T.

    Friends of mine refer to my local dive tavern as CLUB HUB'S, even though the real name is just HUB'S.

    When the YUKON INN in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan's little resort town of Paradise was owned by "Nick from K-Zoo", we called it NICK'S, even though the real name was THE LOG CABIN. As mentioned, it is now the YUKON INN.

    No name change for STUMPS, which is located about forty (40) miles west of Marquette, MI (another Yooper bar....so many Yooper bars, so little time.) When Katie and I used to have a camper at a campground I would occasionally yell out, at the top of my lungs, "Stumps". Then, other campers woould echo that call of the wild. None of those people had ever been there but they enjoyed "humoring the weird man in the site next to the woods".

    A lot of us who frequent a Sylvania Township (west of Toledo) establishment called FROGTOWN JOHNNY'S, refer to the place as THE CLUB, or FROG'S.

    And for the record, this Bear HAS BEEN to a DEW DROP INN, a JOLLY TROLLY (it was a strip club), THE LIBRARY (Houghton, MI), and a HITCHING POST.



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    Quote Originally posted by Chet
    ...surprised no one has mentioned the Deliberately Leading!

    Man Hole
    Woody's
    Beansnapper's
    Tart Mart
    Ballgame
    How about "One Night Stan's" from the Simpsons?

    There's a bar downsate (Pontiac IL, I think) called "The Stumble Inn."

    Here in Chicago, we tend to possessify everything. So Carson Prarie Scott becomes Carson's, Marshall Fields becomes Fields's. There's also a diner I frequent called Victoria Resturant, whose patrons of course, have dubed "Victoria's."

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    There used to be a real dive on 41st Avenue between Santa Cruz and Capitola in the unincorporated area of Santa Cruz County (CA). It was called the Hurry Back Inn. Beer & wine only...a real dump (or so I'm told ) Last I heard, it was sold and turned into a fru-fru bar (sorry fru-frus). It had a bike rack out front for those patrons who had lost driving privileges.

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    Quote Originally posted by RichmondJake
    There used to be a real dive on 41st Avenue between Santa Cruz and Capitola in the unincorporated area of Santa Cruz County (CA). It was called the Hurry Back Inn. Beer & wine only...a real dump (or so I'm told ) Last I heard, it was sold and turned into a fru-fru bar (sorry fru-frus). It had a bike rack out front for those patrons who had lost driving privileges.
    Hey, Jake.....

    Perhaps you should return to your old haunts. Probably some fru-frus you could "whip" on the basketball court.

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    One of my favorite bar names: The Pour House. Former dive bar in northern IN, torn down in the name of progress (or because it was just falling apart). Doubt a whole lot of actual pouring went on there--it was more a PBR in cans kind of place, bottles of Rolling Rock if yer feelin fancy.
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    Quote Originally posted by Plannerbabs
    One of my favorite bar names: The Pour House. Former dive bar in northern IN, torn down in the name of progress (or because it was just falling apart). Doubt a whole lot of actual pouring went on there--it was more a PBR in cans kind of place, bottles of Rolling Rock if yer feelin fancy.
    Until it was taken by WisDOT a few years ago for the WI 29 upgrade project, there was a place on WI 29 about halfway between Chippewa Falls, WI and I-94 at Roberts, WI called 'The Neutral Zone'. The west half of the building was purple and had a Vikings helmet painted on the west-facing wall and the east half was yellow with a Packers helmet painted on the east-facing wall.

    Here in the Appleton, WI area are:

    -Mary's Pop Inn
    -The Speakeasy
    -Pat's Tap
    -Bob's Bar
    -Bree's Inn
    -The Corner Bar
    -Houdini's
    -Illusions (a couple of blocks from the previous place)
    -Philing Station
    -The Pit Stop (next to a racetrack)
    -Frank's Wishing Well

    There is a 'Library' right next to the UWZero Campus in Oshkosh, WI

    Also, there is a chain of popular sports bars here in northeast Wisconsin simply called 'The Bar' (Appleton (2), Green Bay (2) and Oshkosh, plus a couple of others).





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    Quote Originally posted by Chet
    ...surprised no one has mentioned the Deliberately Leading!

    Man Hole
    Woody's
    Beansnapper's
    Tart Mart
    Ballgame
    There is a notorious strip joint just north of Appleton called 'Beansnappers'.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally posted by mgk920
    There is a 'Library' right next to the UWZero Campus in Oshkosh, WI
    [Zero grad]
    Not for years. The UW bought it and the whole block and built shatty apartment housing and strip malls with chain pizza places and kinkos.

    My mother was so proud of me when my roommate would always tell her I was at the library. My name was in so many books at the library....

    ...and next door at Barney's, if your winter coat hapenned to fall on the floor, you would have to peel it off. better just to leave it and buy a new one.
    [/Zero grad]

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    Anything with a directional or beer related name in it... Like:

    "Eastside Keg"

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    bars

    Beware of any bar with "horse" in the name such as the Crazyhorse ot the Black Horse Inn.
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    Quote Originally posted by mgk920
    Here in the Appleton, WI area are:

    -The Corner Bar
    We have a Corner Bar also.

    In some near by communities you can find
    Nip & Tuck Tavern = Marcellus, Michigan
    Happy Jack's = Allegan, Michgian
    10th Street Saloon = on N. Main in Plainwell, Michgian
    and
    The Village Hideaway = Vicksburg, Michigan

    and for our friends who play on the same team,
    The Zoo Bar, and
    Brothers

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    Quote Originally posted by PlannerByDay
    Nip & Tuck Tavern = Marcellus, Michigan
    Happy Jack's = Allegan, Michgian

    [snip]

    The Village Hideaway = Vicksburg, Michigan

    [snip]

    and for our friends who play on the same team,
    The Zoo Bar, and
    Brothers
    Those ALL sound like "same team" bars to me

    Nip & Tuck? Happy Jack's? just what is going on up there in 'Meeeecheeegeeen'?
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