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Poll results: Which of the following is America's best city for planners?

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  • Vancouver, BC

    7 12.28%
  • Cambridge, MA

    1 1.75%
  • Madison, WI

    2 3.51%
  • Pittsburg, PA

    1 1.75%
  • Boston, MA

    3 5.26%
  • Saint John, NB

    0 0%
  • San Francisco, CA

    2 3.51%
  • Marquette, MI

    1 1.75%
  • New Orleans, LA

    0 0%
  • Washington DC / Arlington, VA

    10 17.54%
  • Charleston, SC

    1 1.75%
  • Port Townsend, WA

    2 3.51%
  • Chicago, IL

    7 12.28%
  • Portland, OR

    9 15.79%
  • Astoria, OR

    2 3.51%
  • Boulder, CO

    2 3.51%
  • Savannah, GA

    3 5.26%
  • Toronto, ON

    0 0%
  • Burlington, VT

    4 7.02%
  • Montreal, QB

    0 0%
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Thread: America's Best Cities for Planners: A Poll

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    Cyburbian Cardinal's avatar
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    America's Best Cities for Planners: A Poll

    It is long overdue, but I am following up on the thread I began months ago. You gave me your nominations for the best cities for planners. Obviously, I could not choose to include them all in the poll. There was some consensus around a handful of cities. Others with a single nomination may have been included. The ones I left out tend to be the smaller communities that Cyburbians may not all be familiar with. This is not intended to slight these obviously inferior and unworthy cities in any way. With that disclaimer, vote for your favorite city.
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    Quote Originally posted by Cardinal
    It is long overdue, but I am following up on the thread I began months ago. You gave me your nominations for the best cities for planners. Obviously, I could not choose to include them all in the poll. There was some consensus around a handful of cities. Others with a single nomination may have been included. The ones I left out tend to be the smaller communities that Cyburbians may not all be familiar with. This is not intended to slight these obviously inferior and unworthy cities in any way. With that disclaimer, vote for your favorite city.
    Up until this year, I probably would have voted Madison. But that city loses big points because of its lack of affordable housing. Limousine Liberals can be just as bad as the neocons.

    I voted for Pittsburgh. I was impressed by the city's amenities during my first ever visit there last spring. But unlike Madison, they have lots affordable housing.

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    As someone who doesn't know anything about this, why are Washington/Arlington together but Boston/Cambridge separate?

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    Annapolis, MD should have been included

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    Quote Originally posted by Achernar
    As someone who doesn't know anything about this, why are Washington/Arlington together but Boston/Cambridge separate?
    Well given there is no place quite like the People's Republic of Cambridge (perhaps Burlington VT) it deserves its own distinction.

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    That said, I voted for Burlington VT.
    Planning is much like acting, as my old theater professor used to say, "If you sin, sin boldly, only you know if you are ad libbing." I follow this adage almost daily.

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    For the record, conservative Virginians and Coloradoans call Arlington and Boulder the People's Republic as well.

    I really haven't spent enough time in Cambridge to know what's up there... I'm just sayin'.

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    Well, a city in which your neighbors can appeal your deck construction for two years all in the name of "progressive" politics would not meet the definition of a good place for planners. Oops. I see San Francisco was one of the choices. My bad

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    But the question was....

    Quote Originally posted by BKM
    Well, a city in which your neighbors can appeal your deck construction for two years all in the name of "progressive" politics would not meet the definition of a good place for planners. Oops. I see San Francisco was one of the choices. My bad
    America's best city for "Planners" not "Planning"......ha ha ha....
    And Arlington, Cambridge, Boulder and San Francisco all seem VERY supportive of "Planners"....from what I hear....never worked in any of those places....
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    I had selected Boulder.
    As a baby planner, I don't have much experience with the planning practices in a lot of the cities, I just selected what was close....
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    You can go out, you can take a ride/And when you get out on your own/You get all smoothed out inside/And it's good to be alone
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    Chicago is great for planners. All you have to know is "do what the Alderman says" and you'll do fine.

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    My vote goes to Astoria, OR.

    With a fine mix of history (rare in these parts), affordable housing (with splendid views), and good proximity to Portland (1-1/2 drive), Astoria is a diamond in the rough (or fog) and very appealing to this planner. For a relocation brochure, please contact plankton at .......

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    Quote Originally posted by plankton
    My vote goes to Astoria, OR.

    With a fine mix of history (rare in these parts), affordable housing (with splendid views), and good proximity to Portland (1-1/2 drive), Astoria is a diamond in the rough (or fog) and very appealing to this planner. For a relocation brochure, please contact plankton at .......
    I had a job interview scheduled in Astoria maybe a year ago, but due to a personal crisis, had to call them to cancel it. It is a great city, but it is small and I wonder if it would have been too far from a major metro for me to have enjoyed it much.
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    I voted for Portland, OR ; because all of the good comments I hear about it and because it's somewhat similar to Valdivia (although a lot bigger )
    My second choice was Washington DC.

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    Quote Originally posted by jordanb
    Chicago is great for planners. All you have to know is "do what the Alderman says" and you'll do fine.
    And great for demolition contractors too.

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    Boulder – ugh, ugh, ugh. Most overrated planning city EVER.

    Denver, on the other hand, is looking awfully progressive these days with its TOD zoning and areas of change / areas of stability plan.

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    Maudite anglais, je refuse de participer parce'que quelques villes dans ta liste ne sont pas dans les Etats-Unis. Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.


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    Quote Originally posted by Tranplanner
    Maudite anglais, je refuse de participer parce'que quelques villes dans ta liste ne sont pas dans les Etats-Unis. Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.

    Off-topic:
    Verfluchte französischsprechende Kanadier....grow oben und Stimme in der Abstimmung!

    "Growth is inevitable and desirable, but destruction of community character is not. The question is not whether your part of the world is going to change. The question is how." -- Edward T. McMahon, The Conservation Fund

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    Quote Originally posted by Tranplanner
    Maudite anglais, je refuse de participer parce'que quelques villes dans ta liste ne sont pas dans les Etats-Unis. Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.

    Transplanner, je pense meme-toi!

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    Quote Originally posted by jordanb
    Chicago is great for planners. All you have to know is "do what the Alderman says" and you'll do fine.
    Truer words have never been spoken.

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    Yes.....

    Quote Originally posted by Cirrus
    Boulder – ugh, ugh, ugh. Most overrated planning city EVER.

    Denver, on the other hand, is looking awfully progressive these days with its TOD zoning and areas of change / areas of stability plan.
    Had Denver been an option, it would have been chosen by me.....they've done everything as close to right as could be expected in the last 15 years....Airport could have been closer to the City, but if appropriate measures are taken to avoid sprawl out and beyond the airport (ala Atlanta) Denver will be ahead of the curve in the next 20 years......but that's a VERY BIG IF.............
    "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
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    Quote Originally posted by Tranplanner
    Maudite anglais, je refuse de participer parce'que quelques villes dans ta liste ne sont pas dans les Etats-Unis. Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.

    Maintenant, peut-etre.

    Mais, aprez nous avons "liberer" l'Iraq et l'Iran, qui a beaucoups des reserves de Petroleum? Un nation pres de nos forces. Un nation "weakened" par le medecin socialiste? Qui est deja controler par les Societes Anonymes Americains? Canada: le nouveau frontier!

    Bienvenue aux Etats-Unis, Nouveaux Citoyens Americains! (Le Maple Leaf sera un symbol interdit.)

    (Pardon my French!)

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    Quote Originally posted by The One
    Had Denver been an option, it would have been chosen by me.....they've done everything as close to right as could be expected in the last 15 years....Airport could have been closer to the City, but if appropriate measures are taken to avoid sprawl out and beyond the airport (ala Atlanta) Denver will be ahead of the curve in the next 20 years......but that's a VERY BIG IF.............
    I would add my kudos to Denver IF you are talking about the CITY of Denver. I love the City Beautiful era neighborhoods and boulevards, the new development downtown, the park systems.

    The suburbs have to be some of the most awful, bleak places in the country.

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    Quote Originally posted by NHPlanner
    Off-topic:
    Verfluchte französischsprechende Kanadier....grow oben und Stimme in der Abstimmung!

    Ditto! If my German wasn't so rusty, I'd add on to this comment . . .

    Why isn't Houston on the list? The question asked about "the best city for PLANNERS" and I think we rank pretty high. Where else does one planner do all this:

    Major Thoroughfare updates and public hearings
    Engineering curves/street patterns
    plat review
    sector studies
    variances
    public hearings for deed restrictions
    landscape plan review
    apartment site plan review
    All on-line submittal and review (trying to be paperless)
    building permits
    economic development
    TIRZ/TIF creation and overview
    Planner of the Day (counter/on-call duty)
    plat recordation
    GIS/mapping

    I've learned a lot here that I can take other places and it looks great! Such a broad range of knowledge looks good at future job interviews.
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    Quote Originally posted by Tranplanner
    Maudite anglais, je refuse de participer parce'que quelques villes dans ta liste ne sont pas dans les Etats-Unis. Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.

    De lo poco que entendí, te quejas porque no incluyeron ciudades Canadienses, pero al menos se considerado y pon una traducción para los que no saben francés. De todos modos no me quejé porque no incluyeron ciudades Chilenas.


    Now being considerate for the non spanish speakers, though they could copy/paste the text above to a translator; I'll be kind and translate it myself, since this is an American site and in ENGLISH!:
    Out of the little I understood, you're complaining because they didn't include Canadian cities, but at least be considerate enough to put a translation for the people that don't know french. Anyways, I certainly didn't complain because they didn't include Chilean cities.
    If you compare this translation to the result of whatever online translator you use, I can bet that my own translation is way more understandable and without Tarzan english

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    Quote Originally posted by Salmissra
    Ditto! If my German wasn't so rusty, I'd add on to this comment . . .

    Why isn't Houston on the list? The question asked about "the best city for PLANNERS" and I think we rank pretty high. Where else does one planner do all this:

    .
    Well, I'm sure there are nice parts of Houston, the city has been the posterboy for everything wrong with cities: Bad zoning, rampant uncontrolled sprawl, traffic congestion, Wal-Mart, and smog. Plus, didn't the city rank as America's fattest city a couple of years ago?

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