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    Quote Originally posted by CNN
    'Adopt a Sniper' fund-raiser shot down
    Marquette University says 'no' to Republican students' plan
    Thursday, February 3, 2005 Posted: 5:10 PM EST (2210 GMT)

    CHICAGO (Reuters) -- A Catholic university in Milwaukee, Wisconsin has blocked an attempt by Republican students to raise money for a group called "Adopt a Sniper" that raises money for U.S. sharp-shooters in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The students were selling bracelets bearing the motto "1 Shot 1 Kill No Remorse I Decide".

    "Clearly the rhetoric of that organization raised some questions and we had some strong objections as a Jesuit university," Marquette University school spokeswoman Brigid O'Brien said Thursday.

    The students, representing a group called College Republicans, originally got permission to set up a table at the student union to raise money for U.S. troops in Iraq.

    But they chose to promote a group called Adopt a Sniper, which says on its Web site it supports snipers deployed by the United States armed forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The group says it "helps real snipers get the real gear they need to help keep us safe."

    The brainchild of a Texas police SWAT officer Adopt a Sniper (www.adoptasniper.org) has raised thousands of dollars in cash and gear to supplement the kit of sharp shooters in U.S. combat platoons.

    Among products sold on the site is a $15 coin with the imprinted phrase "Assistance From A Distance."
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    I found out about this on NPR. I hope the ACLU helps these kids spread their message. You know, the ACLU that stands up for our free speech rights.

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    I don't see anything wrong with that program. They have chosen to focus on a certain group of soldiers and with a name like "Adopt-a-Sniper", your bound to get the attention of college students that would normally walk right by a "support the troops" sign like they see everywhere else.

    Besides, snipers are badasses!

    "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

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    Quote Originally posted by el Guapo

    1 shot 1 kill no remorse I decide

    Thats NNNNIIIIICCCCEEEE!

    Sounds like the old sniper credo with a video game tagline added!

    I'm all for helping get our guys better equipment if it helpds keep our guys alive.

    On a larger note EG, and aside from the free speach aspects all together, doesn't it piss you off MORE that after a year and a half of unrestrained war our guys still don't seem to have what they need to do the job on the governments quarter? That SHOULD piss you off more than the fact that a private university of an abrahamic faith, is trying to attempt to live by its belief structure no mater how feeble an attempt.

    GO SNIPERS! GO SNIPERS! GO SNIPERS! GO SNIPERS!


    Just wait till one of them goes nuts after the war and we have to try and hunt down a REAL professional sniper rather than an amatuer with a crapy rifle!
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    Quote Originally posted by el Guapo
    I found out about this on NPR. I hope the ACLU helps these kids spread their message. You know, the ACLU that stands up for our free speech rights.
    Yes, unfortunately it's a private school, which is governed by contract law and not the Constitution. They can get away with a whole lot more. The Marquette University handbook basically says the school reserves the right to censor expression by student groups at their discretion.

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    Grrrr I cant read the words "one shot one kill" without my blood boiling

    You see my ex husband was a USMC sniper, and he turned that phrase on ME (I still worry about seeing a feather in some guys cap) I met many of his buddies and they were all well...the Marines made them animals who in turn used their skills on their wives, girlfriends, pets, and members of the community. He's now a cop where he "hope to get to pop a few in some punk". The guys that are all gun ho on "one shot..." are the IMNHO the ones that go over the line. Why glorify killing another person?

    I realize these guys, and many others, have a hard job to do and war changes a person but the way this group is promoting its self leaves a great deal to be desired. I'm all for supporting the troops but lets support them as humans, not as remorseless animals. Maybe the money for support could be spent to rehab these guys back in to society when they come home?

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    Quote Originally posted by PlannerGirl
    ....... I'm all for supporting the troops but lets support them as humans, not as remorseless animals. Maybe the money for support could be spent to rehab these guys back in to society when they come home?.......
    Normal people come back and spend a long time dealing with it. Most have no desire to hurt others afterword. Sorry about you having been involved with a dink, but the vast majority in the service are NOT like that.

    Unfortunatly, we have asked tens of thousands to do an INHUMAN job. That job can NOT be supported in a human fashion. Help does need to be given upon return. Until then, a persons own humanity can only get in the way.
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    Quote Originally posted by Duke Of Dystopia
    Normal people come back and spend a long time dealing with it. Most have no desire to hurt others afterword. Sorry about you having been involved with a dink, but the vast majority in the service are NOT like that.

    Unfortunatly, we have asked tens of thousands to do an INHUMAN job. That job can NOT be supported in a human fashion. Help does need to be given upon return. Until then, a persons own humanity can only get in the way.
    I am lucky that I was never in a situation when I had to shoot at someone. Still, during the legitimate Gulf War I was forced to really explore the question of whether or not I could take another life. The chilling answer is yes, but that it would take a deliberate choice of shutting off my conscience and operating on pure mechanics. As you say, a persons own humanity can only get in the way.
    Anyone want to adopt a dog?

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    Quote Originally posted by Duke Of Dystopia
    Thats NNNNIIIIICCCCEEEE!
    On a larger note EG, and aside from the free speach aspects all together, doesn't it piss you off MORE that after a year and a half of unrestrained war our guys still don't seem to have what they need to do the job on the governments quarter? That SHOULD piss you off more than the fact that a private university of an abrahamic faith, is trying to attempt to live by its belief structure no mater how feeble an attempt.

    Why, are they mutually exclusive? Cannot el Guapo deal with one subject at a time? Or must el Guapo comment on all possible subjects of debate in every one of his posts to leave no hypocrisy exposed?

    In fact el Guapo has opined on that very subject here on Cyburbia. el Guapo even said it was George Bush's fault the Hummers got no armor.

    Wow, once again el Guapo is proven to have no chinks in his armor of self righteousness! He is pure, and his crusades are just.

    Behold, el Guapo opened the fifth seal and a brilliant light of cleansing bathed the earth....

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    I'm with EG on what the ACLU should do. But not ready to go the EG as diety route yet.

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    Quote Originally posted by Suburb Repairman
    I don't see anything wrong with that program. They have chosen to focus on a certain group of soldiers and with a name like "Adopt-a-Sniper", your bound to get the attention of college students that would normally walk right by a "support the troops" sign like they see everywhere else.

    Besides, snipers are badasses!
    The History Channel ran their documentaries on snipers back-to-back last night (Thursday, 2005-02-03), too. Absolutely fascinating the training, experience and nerves of steel that these guys (and gals, too, Stalin had legions of highly decorated female snipers in WWII) have. Some parts that stood out in those shows included the training of USMC scout-snipers and British Royal Army snipers and included peeks into the training and jobs of civilian snipers with local police departments, the FBI and Secret Service.

    Other highlights included a US Army sniper in Vietnam who took out a North Vietnamese general in a base camp deep inside North Vietnam and then later went face-to-face with the VC's best counterpart, shooting first and killing the adversary with a single shot that went down his scope.

    They also went on to say that the USA's very existance may be traced to a single shot taken by a sniper during the Revolutionary War. At Saratoga, a British general was killed at about 300 meters range by an American sniper, causing chaos in the British ranks and giving the American troops there an opening to defeat Burgoyne's forces. Had Burgoyne won (and ALL indications were that it would be a rout for the British), the American Revolution would have been over and the World today would be a completely unrecognizable place.

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