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    Forums Administrator & Gallery Moderator NHPlanner's avatar
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    Quote Originally posted by Streck
    Is it right for the city to designate someone's land for open space preservation?

    Shouldn't the city have to compete and buy the land?

    Doesn't the city have to pay fair value of the land if confiscated under Emminent Domain? (Of course the answer to this one is yes, the city has to pay. Does the city have the right to claim a need for "open space"?)
    To answer these directly as they apply to the community I work for:

    Yes, we have an extensive list of properties identified by an Open Space Task Force, a "wish list" if you will, for properties to target for open space protection.

    Yes, we do have to compete with other prospective buyers. Rarely does the Town outright purchase land. Typically we buy development rights or condervation easements.

    And finally, of course a municipality (or other government agency) must pay fair market value in eminent domain situations. We cannot use open space as the purpose of the eminent domain taking. It can end up that way, though, and is taking place in my community, that the wetland mitigation package for a major state highway project will take some 800 +/- acres in my Town, by eminent domain, and preserve it as open space.
    "Growth is inevitable and desirable, but destruction of community character is not. The question is not whether your part of the world is going to change. The question is how." -- Edward T. McMahon, The Conservation Fund

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    Quote Originally posted by Chet
    That is the single most idiotic statement I've seen posted on this board in a long, long time.
    nice flame, keep up the good work!

    Jackass

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    Quote Originally posted by Kobayashi
    nice flame, keep up the good work!

    Jackass
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    Yellow card.

    Keep away from personal attacks Kobayashi.
    Last edited by NHPlanner; 14 Dec 2004 at 10:53 AM.
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    Quote Originally posted by NHPlanner
    [Mod hat on]


    Yellow card.

    Keep away from personal attacks Kobayashi.
    [Mod hat off]
    I was called an idiot, that was the first blow.

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    two cents: I gotta go with Kobayashi, chet popped one across the 'ole bow there.

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    Quote Originally posted by jordanb
    two cents: I gotta go with Kobayashi, chet popped one across the 'ole bow there.
    Quote Originally posted by Chet
    That is the single most idiotic statement I've seen posted on this board in a long, long time.
    Not quite.......
    "A witty woman is a treasure, a witty beauty is a power!"

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    Quote Originally posted by Planderella
    Perhaps you shouldn't have them at all.
    Or maybe he should have 10 and throw them in public schools to be babysat all day by overworked and underpaid teachers.

    Planderella, I think your comment was very inappropriate.

    I think Kobayashi is being responsible by waiting until he is financially secure before having kids. If he thinks that prep schools will benefit his children's education then that's his decision.

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    To all:

    Play nice or the thread is closed.

    Last edited by NHPlanner; 14 Dec 2004 at 10:54 AM.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chet
    That is the single most idiotic statement I've seen posted on this board in a long, long time.
    Is it too hard to just say "I disagree with you" and state your reasons why?

    I work in government and all of the planners I know are against sprawl because they want to preserve natural resources.

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    Moderator note:
    OK....we're off track enough now. You know you're in for it when the someone's wife gets involved.

    Thread closed.

    If you want to resume constructive discussion of this topic, start a new thread.
    Last edited by NHPlanner; 14 Dec 2004 at 10:54 AM.
    "Growth is inevitable and desirable, but destruction of community character is not. The question is not whether your part of the world is going to change. The question is how." -- Edward T. McMahon, The Conservation Fund

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    Quote Originally posted by Sarahb8208

    Planderella, I think your comment was very inappropriate.
    And you think THIS is an appropriate statement???

    Originally posted by Kobayashi
    I have never met dumber people in all my life than the people that work for local governments. I sincerely do not want to be surrounded by stupid people. Is this just a southern thing?
    Since you said you work in government, you do realize that this applies to you as well??? :-P
    "A witty woman is a treasure, a witty beauty is a power!"

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