|
| Home Forums Gallery PlanningWiki Site of the Day Voices Bookstore Gear Advertise About Cyburbia |
|
|
|||||||
| Make No Small Plans General discussion about urban planning/town planning, the planning profession, and the built environment. |
Register Now for FREE!
|
![]() |
|
|
Thread tools |
|
|
#1 |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: at Babies R Us or Home Depot
Posts: 1,260
|
Thoughts on annexation?
What are you guys' thoughts on annexation. The City of Omaha just voted unamiously to annex Elkhorn, a small town to the west. Current Nebraska law allows municipalities to annex land and people as long as it's not across county lines and the population is less than 10,000. Elkhorn has about 7500 residents in the town proper. Omaha beat Elkhorn to the punch acquiring unincorporated land between the city and town. Below are a couple of links of the ongoing saga that I've been following for a couple of years now. Who knows, Omaha may become as big as Kansas City, MO proper one day. It surpassed the City of Minneapolis and St. Louis City long ago.
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1636&u_sid=1354894 http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=...&u_sid=1342716
__________________
I am recognizing that the voice inside my head is urging me to be myself but never follow someone else Because opinions are like voices we all have a different kind". --Q-Tip |
|
|
|
|
|
#2 |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: West Valley, AZ
Posts: 3,627
|
wow.. forceable annexation.
Illinois state law allows annexation of only contiguous property. It can be through county lines and unincorporated land can only be annexed through owner approval. In 1986, communities that surrounded unincorporated parcles were given a one time right to froceably annex those "donut-hole" parcels. Our community is actively establishing annexation agreements with parcels that are and are not contiguous with the city to capture that growth when it is developed.
__________________
Dude, I'm cheesing so hard right now. |
|
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Arlington, Va.
Posts: 180
|
I'm a big advocate of annexation, especially by central cities. The bigger the jurisdictions, and the less fragmentation in metropolitan areas, the greater the stability of the metro area and its neigbhorhoods. It allows for more resource sharing, less duplication of services, and tends to prevent the development of a metro area of haves and have nots, where it is usually only a matter of time before any given jurisdiction joins the ranks of the have nots. Compare the relatively strength of central cities in North Carolina, where annexation laws are very liberal and county government is strong, with central cities in Pennsylvania or Ohio, where the proliferation of governmental units has hurt not only the central cities but also the at-risk suburbs. I know, a lot of factors are at work, but annexation laws and strong county government are very important factors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#4 |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Here
Posts: 3,519
|
We are in the process of about 7 non-voluntary annexations...going ok so far, just have to make sure there are no registered voters that reside onthe property
|
|
|
|
|
|
#5 | |
|
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Arlington, Va.
Posts: 180
|
Quote:
Yes, that can be a problem...if those who are being annexed feel that it's not in their best interest, as is often the case (that's why moved there in the first place)...This Nebraska case is striking in that the central city is trying to annex a place that is already incorporated. I think that in North Carolina, for instance, the concept of annexation may not necessarily be associated with "big city" problems, or less so than in some other states. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#6 | |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
Posts: 2,662
|
Quote:
Mike |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#7 | |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: at Babies R Us or Home Depot
Posts: 1,260
|
Quote:
__________________
I am recognizing that the voice inside my head is urging me to be myself but never follow someone else Because opinions are like voices we all have a different kind". --Q-Tip |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#8 |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Kenosha, WI
Posts: 30
|
Wow, that is a pretty strong annexation law. Here in Wisconsin, it is much tougher to annex properties. Generally, most annexations are unanimous consent, or a property or group of properties that all agree to be annexed and make the request. Adjacent properties can also be included within an annexation area when the properties requesting the annexation have a majority of electors and either at least 1/2 of the assessed value of the properties included within the annexation area or 1/2 the land area. Generally, it is pretty tough to include multiple properties in an annexation unless they make a request, let alone a whole township. Properties can also be annexed through a referendum in Wisconsin, but this is pretty rare.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#9 | |
|
Member
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Posts: 16
|
Cities Without Suburbs
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#10 |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Boston
Posts: 1,137
|
I believe the City of Madison just agreed to annex the entire township of Blooming Grove, which it already surronds. I get the impression that annexation laws are generally liberal here and favor the city. All over the Madison area I heard stories of parcels that the city is planning on annexing or even zoning because they might annex it in the future.
I grew up in New England where there is no such animal. Most land is an incorporated town or city, so this annexation stuff is a little strange, but it makes sense for a city to control growth on its boundaries and to more efficiently provide services to periurban residents. |
|
|
|
|
|
#11 | |
|
Member
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Posts: 16
|
Wisconsin annexation
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#12 | |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Kenosha, WI
Posts: 30
|
Quote:
The new Somers agreement will allow us to attach property to the City vs. annexation (a much simpler process) over the next 30 years. It requires properties to attach to the City when somone wants to do a subdivision of their property, when the do a larger addition to a current home or build on vacant property. Any property that is not within the City upon the expiration of the 30 year limit will be attached to the City as a final attachment. The IGA's establish a mutual agreement between Towns and Cities or Villages on permanent boundaries and establishments of utilities. Generally, the Town agrees not to fight attachment of certain properties and the City provides some services to the Town, e.g. utilities, and the City agrees to the permanent boundary, unless both parties agree to amendments. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#13 |
|
Cyburbian
![]() Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 259
|
I am all for annexation and consolidation. In the Fox Valley you see a lot of parochial attitudes and 8 communities 5,000-70,000 vying for the same resources and funds. Each community has its own fire department, police department, school district, etc. It makes it tough to market because it is hard to frame a cohesive image. Don't get me wrong the Fox Cities are great and have a wonderful quality of life and a very low cost of living, but bringing together these communities or services seems to be the next logical step.
__________________
“I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is another step forward.” - Thomas Edison |
|
|
|
|
|
#14 | |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: The Cheese State
Posts: 8,038
|
Quote:
__________________
APA - Extorting money from professional planners for 25 years |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#15 |
|
Cyburbian Plus
![]() Registered: May 2003
Location: Northwestern Ohio
Posts: 7,275
|
For those that might be interested, the Cleveland Plain Dealer has been doing a continuing in-depth set of articles on "regionalism". Many of the individual articles address some of the "offering of services" issues that are involved with different communities next to each other.
Bear
__________________
I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, um, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as, uh, South Africa and, uh, the Iraq and everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uh, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa and should help Iraq, Cyburbia, and the Asian countries,so we will be able to build up our future - Best sentence ever! |
|
|
|
|
|
#16 | |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
Posts: 2,662
|
Quote:
As a Fox Cities resident, those Madison/Madison Twp, Madison/Blooming Grove and Kenosha/Somers agreements make me very envious to say the least. I can't even begin to think of how much of an economic development powerhouse a (for lack of a better name) 'City of Fox Valley' would be, if all of those disparate entities would get over their parochialisms and get together to create a single municipal-level government. Is there any near-future possibility of doing a similar merger agreement between Kenosha and the Village of Pleasant Prairie, so that all of the land in Kensoha County east of I-94 is in one municipality? Ditto in Racine County with the City of Racine? Mike |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#17 | |
|
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Arlington, Va.
Posts: 180
|
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#18 | |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Kenosha, WI
Posts: 30
|
Quote:
I think perhaps you are misunderstanding the IGA between Kenosha and Somers. The IGA is not merging the town and the City. Somers will stay a township for the time being...only parts off the town would be attached to the City over a 30 year time period in order to square of boundaries and to prevent inefficient services. Kenosha has a utility district and will agree to supply a larger area of the town (that will stay Somers) with sewer and water. Regarding a merger between Kenosha and Pleasant Prairie...I don't ever see this happening. What Pleasant Prairie, Kenosha, Somers and most of the rest of Kenosha County are looking at doing is a County-wide Comprehensive Plan in order to comply with the 2010 State Comprehensive Plan requirement. The Comp plan will certainly look at economic development, housing, jobs at a county-wide level, but a merger of any muncipalities is a long way off, if ever in my opinion. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#19 |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: at Babies R Us or Home Depot
Posts: 1,260
|
In contrast, Maryland is so much different. Generally speaking, there are very few municipalities. There are populated areas such as Towson, Gle Bethesda, Randallstown, Owings Mills, Silver Spring but they are not incorporated. Maryland has strong county governments, the bigger counties in the Baltimore and DC suburbs have county executives, while the less populated counties have a board of county commissioners. I've been here 7 1/2 years and have not heard of one annexation case in the state. However, I heard of municipalities that have or want to switch into a differnent county. The City of Takoma Park used to be in Prince George's County now it's in Montgomery County. There's talk that the City of Bowie wants to leave Prince George's County and be a part of Anne Arundel County.
__________________
I am recognizing that the voice inside my head is urging me to be myself but never follow someone else Because opinions are like voices we all have a different kind". --Q-Tip |
|
|
|
|
|
#20 | |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
Posts: 2,662
|
Quote:
My read of your earlier post made it look like the entire remainder of the town will then become part of Kenosha.Mike |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#21 | |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Kenosha, WI
Posts: 30
|
Quote:
Sorry I didn't post an earlier response...I was on vacation. I apologize for the confusion of my previous post. I'll try to explain this a bit better. The City of Kenosha is composed of land that was either formerly the township of Somers or Pleasant Prairie. Kenosha straddles the boundaries of both, right in the middle. There is a corridor of Somers extending through part of the middle of the western portion of the City, splitting the City into a U-shape around this corridor. This corridor will come into the City within the next 30 years. There are also portions of the town adjacent to the north and northwest boundaries of the City that will come into the City. After the 30 years, the remaining L-shaped township of Somers not attached to the City will still exist, and will consist of land between Lake Michigan on the east, I-94 on the west, Racine County on the north and the City of Kenosha on the south (with squared off boundaries). The boundaries are froze at that point. Again, the IGA helps square off boundaries, but is not an agreement to combine the entire town with the City, just fragments. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#22 | |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
Posts: 2,662
|
Quote:
Mike |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#23 | |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Solano County, California
Posts: 6,469
|
Quote:
__________________
The war on drugs seems like a small thing, but actually it was a huge opening, created by the American government, to stealthily destroy your rights. It has done a crackerjack job. In California, poor Ed Rosenthal is again being prosecuted by Federal terrorists, otherwise known as the Drug Enforcement Agency. Free Ed Rosenthal. Arrest instead William Bennet (roger gathman) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#24 |
|
Cyburbian
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: near Baltimore, Maryland
Posts: 169
|
Probably one of the big reasons Takoma Park switched counties was the public schools in PG County, which by all accounts are as bad as anything in Baltimore City, expect the City is scrambling to improve its schools and beginning (HUGE emphasis on "beginning") to get some modest results, while I have yet to hear anything about PG doing much to improve its schools.
Having heard a couple of times that it was somehow "illegal" for Baltimore City to annex any land after the last big annexation in 1918, I once looked up Maryland's annexation law. There's actually no law that I found forbidding Baltimore from annexing, but the process is a bit convoluted. As far as I remember, the municipality doing the annexing can unilaterally annex unnoccupied land, as Port Deposit in my home county (Cecil) did with the abandoned Bainbridge Navy training base a few years ago. If there are people or businesses on the property, it gets complicated. If those people are the ones asking to be annexed, they have to get a petition signed by something like 20% of residents or 25% of property owners on that land. If the town or city is initiating the annexation, I don't think a petition has to signed, but it still has to publicized. If within a certain number of days 20% of residents or 25% of property owners on the land up for annxtn sign a petition opposing it, there have to hearings to get permission from the county. If fewer than that sign an opposing petition, or there is no anti-petition, annexation goes through. If it goes to county hearings, the county decides whether or not to allow annexation. Even if the county says yes, there is still something like a 30 or 90 day window for opponents to send around a petition (with the same percentage cutoffs) to force a referendum. Combine the current (and recent past) condition of Baltimore with all those oppurtunities for opponents to kill an annexation proposal, and it's clear why Baltimore has been unable to annex since 1918 and probably won't for at least a few decades more. Meanwhile, most municipalities in Maryland are small towns, and many have annexed a little here and there for years. Havre de Grace, Elkton, Aberdeen, and Frederick are the ones I can think of off the top of my head that have done quite a lot of annexing in the last several years. |
|
|
|
|
|
#25 | |
|
Member
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Papillion, Nebraska
Posts: 7
|
Annexation Across County Lines
Quote:
I believe the state legislators from the two urban counties that represent Omaha and Lincoln would like to change that law, but almost every other state representative would fight it. I cannot believe that limitation will change in Nebraska anytime in the foreseeable future. |
|
|
|
|
![]() |
| Bookmarks |
| Viewing thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
| Thread tools | |
|
|
| > ©1994-2010 Cyburbia vBulletin 3.8.4 ©2000 - 2010 Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. |