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    Cyburbian mgk920's avatar
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    Rest In Peace, Karol

    Pope John Paul II passed away in the early afternoon, USA time today (Sat, 2005-04-02). He was a towering figure in both religious, as well as secular affairs of the World in the late 20th Century. Our World is far better today for his presence.

    Godspeed!

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    Rest in Peace

    Pope John Paul II passed away at 2:37 EST. No single man has accomplished more than this. His body may no longer be with us, but his spirit will live on always.

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    No single man has accomplished more? I think that might be stretching it. He was a good man, and may he rest in peace, but to say no other has accomplished more seems a little... off. Let's not get carried away.

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    Iím not Catholic nor religious in any sense, but I think he made a difference in the world. RIP
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    John Paul II literally changed the papacy -- bringing it squarely into the Third Millenium.
    What a truly remarkable life, from Wadowice to the Vatican City.

    Godspeed.
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    Quote Originally posted by RichmondJake
    Iím not Catholic nor religious in any sense, but I think he made a difference in the world. RIP
    My sentiments, too.

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    I can't say I agreed with all of his positions on various matters. But he was a man of principle. The world is a bit worse off for his loss and I'm saddened by it. Rest In Peace, Karol.
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    I can remember back to when he was elected pope. He came in with a great deal of strength and charisma, which he used to modernize the papacy. In his last years, though, he seemed to become an ever more conservative voice as the sentiments of most of the world's population and the church's congregation changed. His greatest legacy may be the human face he put on the role of pope, as he reached out to other peoples more than any other religious figure.
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    This great loss to the world will be heaven's gain.

    Rest in peace Pope John Paul II.

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    Quote Originally posted by nuovorecord
    I can't say I agreed with all of his positions on various matters. But he was a man of principle. The world is a bit worse off for his loss and I'm saddened by it. Rest In Peace, Karol.
    I completly agree.

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    He will live on in the good work he accomplished.

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    Even as a non catholic I have had respect for him and mourn his loss.
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    Quote Originally posted by nuovorecord
    I can't say I agreed with all of his positions on various matters. But he was a man of principle. The world is a bit worse off for his loss and I'm saddened by it. Rest In Peace, Karol.
    My sentiments exactly.

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    I was fortunate enough to see him when he visited New Orleans in 1987 where a huge youth rally was held in his honor at the Superdome - that was one of my defining moments in high school. May he rest in peace.
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    Quote Originally posted by nuovorecord
    I can't say I agreed with all of his positions on various matters. But he was a man of principle. The world is a bit worse off for his loss and I'm saddened by it. Rest In Peace, Karol.
    Ditto.

    I actually went to mass this weekend and was surprised how little was actually said about him.

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    Quote Originally posted by Zoning Goddess
    My sentiments, too.
    Mine as well. He was a Godly man and a positive influence in troubled times with a lot of changes. I may not be Catholic myself, but I had one set of grandparents that were so I can relate somewhat.

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    Quote Originally posted by abrowne
    No single man has accomplished more? I think that might be stretching it. He was a good man, and may he rest in peace, but to say no other has accomplished more seems a little... off. Let's not get carried away.

    In terms of his position, he accomplished more than anyone else in our generation, certainly from a non-religous person as I am, he still carried himself with unparalleled strength. Its a loss to the world for what he believed, what he did and who was was. Rest in piece, and somehow, I think the next pope is going to have very large shoes to fill.
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    So... who had April in the pool?
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    ^ Offensive.

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    ^ Been called worse.






    (And who, incidentally, did not have the pope in his pool...)
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    This Bear was raised a Catholic, although that part of my life has been over for many decades. Catholic or not, it's easy to see the positive and negative influence he had over his church, Catholics, and non-Catholics.....the world over. May he rest in peace.

    Slightly-on-topic: Many "thinking heads" are saying that Pope John Paul II (and Ronald Reagan) were the two (2) people who brought an end to the "evil empire", the Soviet Union and the control that the "reds" had over eastern Europe.

    I would argue that the collapse of the Soviet State was inevitable for economic, political, and technology reasons. The Pope and Ron certainly drove the wagon.....but that wagon was loaded by capitalism that works as opposed to communism and socialism that doesn't, a world that is more politcally "savvy", and technology that was most always ahead of the pinkos.

    The "evil empire" would have collapsed anyway. It would have just taken longer.

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    I really don't like Reagan or John Paul II getting all the credit for bringing down communism. It is a dangerous simplification. All simplifications of this nature are dangerous - to ignore the whole and focus on a few easy points. Movements within the Soviet Union had just as much to do with it.

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    Off-topic:
    Quote Originally posted by abrowne
    I really don't like Reagan or John Paul II getting all the credit for bringing down communism. It is a dangerous simplification. All simplifications of this nature are dangerous - to ignore the whole and focus on a few easy points. Movements within the Soviet Union had just as much to do with it.
    The book "The mind and heart of the negotiator", which was one of the textbooks for my "negotiation and conflict management" class, uses the end of the cold war as an example of a negotiation technique for reducing and ultimately trying to end conflict. It credits the soviet union and Gorbachov with handling it correctly in spite of the paranoia of the U.S.

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    Quote Originally posted by Michele Zone
    Off-topic:

    The book "The mind and heart of the negotiator", which was one of the textbooks for my "negotiation and conflict management" class, uses the end of the cold war as an example of a negotiation technique for reducing and ultimately trying to end conflict. It credits the soviet union and Gorbachov with handling it correctly in spite of the paranoia of the U.S.
    Off-topic:
    Sounds like quite the interesting text. From my readings of history, it seems to me that Reagan went out of his way to bungle a peaceful resolution with his heel dragging on weapons treaties. I am not impressed with the man and was very much offended when history was seemingly re-written upon his death. Gorbachev's perestroika and other programs were from within, and Reagan only made adoption of these ideas within the Soviet Union harder with his rantings and hard line approach.

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