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Thread: Cyburbia Death Match #8 : VW vs. Subaru

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    Cyburbian Emeritus Chet's avatar
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    Cyburbia Death Match #8 : VW vs. Subaru

    As inspired by BKM.

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    VW or Subaru....hmmmmm

    I would pefer a Subbie over a VW, but it is pretty close.

    VWs like the Jetta Wagon 1.8T or a Golf 4dr 1.8T would be great, but then again a nice 4wd Subbie wagon would be cooler.

    There is a certain cache one gets from being a Subaru owner. Similar to the aura around owning a Saab.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

    Let's not be didactic in this profession, because that is a path to disillusion and irrelevancy.

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    A year ago, it would have been a no-brainer for me - VW all the way. After hearing several cyburbanites rave about their subbies, I'm intrigued. I guess the WRX rally car has smitten me too. VW's reputation has taken a bit of a beating lately - their customer service is apparently really bad in Canada.

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    Cyburbian Emeritus Chet's avatar
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    Originally posted by mendelman
    There is a certain cache one gets from being a Subaru owner.
    Its usually associated with lebsians, I thought?

    For new cars, Subaru.

    For vintage, you cant beat the Karmann Ghia

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    Re: Re: VW or Subaru....hmmmmm

    Originally posted by Chet
    Its [Subarus] usually associated with lebsians, I thought?
    It's more often associated with anyone who wants reliable all wheel drive without the size, cost, stigma, etc. of a SUV.

    I've never owned anything else, nor do I ever expect to.
    All these years the people said he’s actin’ like a kid.
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    Re: Re: VW or Subaru....hmmmmm

    Originally posted by Chet
    Its usually associated with lebsians, I thought?
    I guess, but for me it is owning something capable, utilitarian, and not neccessarily "beautiful".

    Then again by those standards I would take a 4wd AMC Eagle wagon, too.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

    Let's not be didactic in this profession, because that is a path to disillusion and irrelevancy.

    Six seasons and a movie!

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    Originally posted by Chet
    Its usually associated with lebsians, I thought?

    For new cars, Subaru.

    For vintage, you cant beat the Karmann Ghia
    Is there such a thing as a vintage Subaru?

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    Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
    Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
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    Cyburbian Emeritus Chet's avatar
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    Originally posted by Tranplanner
    Is there such a thing as a vintage Subaru?
    Check out the Ultimate Vintage Subaru Website!

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    VW may make more stylish or hip-looking cars, but I question the quality of the craftsmanship. A lot of my friends have problems with their VWs. Two years ago when I was car shopping, it came down to a VW Jetta or a Subaru Legacy. They were the same price, but with the Subaru I got AWD, leather and a sunroof. I bet I'll buy another Subaru for my next car.

    Oh, and to feed on Chet's comment.... my gay sister also drives a Subaru.

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    i voted VW, but when it comes time to replace mine I probaably won't buy another one, want something different.

    As for four wheel drive, there is the passat wagon 1.8T four motion available.

    On theservice side, my local dealer is great. they actually gave me free shocks last year when mine went. The story goes that someone came in to hop up their golf and left the realtively new stock shocks to be disposed of. Mine went and presto free parts, had to pay for installation only.

    My primary image of vintage subarus is rust.
    Too lazy to beat myself up for being to lazy to beat myself up for being too lazy to... well you get the point....

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    You've heard my position. Pracitcality+Fun.

    Plus, I like my car's design Too many Japanese cars are bland look-alikes (Honda or Toyota or Mazda) or bloated bizarro designs (new Nissans). The Subie is quirky. It certainly ain't elegant or stylish, but. . .

    I have to admit that VWs are more beautiful cars. The Germans know car design (although some of the new BMWs are pretty questionable). And they are really good for gas mileage-in some models.

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    Originally posted by Chet
    Its usually associated with lebsians, I thought?
    Yeee Haaa! Lesbians!

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    I find the VW's to be hands and above better looking cars but, like has been stated before, I am weary of their qulity. Several WV owning friends of mine have had lots of problems - often with the electric systems - with thier Jetta's and Passat's (Some of the Trixie and Chad crowd).

    I mentioned to my fiance that we should look at getting a Subaru wagon but she nixed that idea by telling me I might as well be a 45 year old, tweed jacket wearing, kid toting college professor if I bought one.

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    Nah, Biscuit. THAT crowd drives Volvos.

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    Cyburbian biscuit's avatar
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    Ain't that the truth, but she would never diss Volvo drivers because that's what she wants.

    Personally, I would prefer we buy a house and just drive my Honda till it dies.

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    I heard there was talk of lesbians here?

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    Why not both?

    I've got one of each ('95 Legacy, '03 TDI Golf). The Subie is the only one in our family, and is still running strong w/over 100k on it. When it came time to get another car, (for future husband--he gets the Subie, usually), I got another VW. We've had 7 in our family, including 3 diesels, and only one gave us any real problems--and we still got 130k out of it. I think I saw it on the highway the other day, too. The Subie is great, I looked at new ones, but the snow in our area usually isn't that bad, so it pretty much boiled down to AWD vs diesel fuel economy. Besides, the Subies here tend to be a bit more expensive, even the basic ones, than the VW's. The fuel economy, thanks to our road-tripping habit and lots of site visits, won out. But the next car might be a Subie, too....

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    I'm torn, I just turned 250,000km on my '97 Golf and I love it but its days are numbered. We test drove a legacy wagon on the weekend and really liked it.

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    Originally posted by Mike D.
    I heard there was talk of lesbians here?
    And, talk of Volvos too! My spidey-sense is tingling!

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    Gotta vote for Subaru here. We've had an Impreza Outback since 1997 (130k and going strong!) and are just about ot buy another one (A Legacy Wagon). We've had no trouble with them, and milage is good (OK with bikes on top). Getting around is easy, especailly in winter. I can go on most roads and jeep trails with it and not worry. If the road is bad enough, I'd rather be rideing anyways! I did test drive a Jetta GLI and Passat 1.8T last week, and they were really quite nice. Especailly the Jetta. A 200 hp V-6 in small car = big ass grins! 100mph in 4th, dripped it into 5th and got scared at 110 and backed down. Didn't touch 6th gear at all. Quite impressive. That being said, I probably won't get one. The WRX wagon has teh right combination of practicality and fun for me.
    You're more boring than you know.

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    Originally posted by Mike D.
    I heard there was talk of lesbians here?

    Originally posted by EG
    And, talk of Volvos too! My spidey-sense is tingling!

    Um, EG, I don't think that's your Spidey Sense that's tingling.....

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    Over here, the rivalry is between the WRX and the Mitsubishi Evo (latest is the Evo 8 now I think).

    Anyone else familiar with Evo's? They look quite similar to a WRX.

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    This is too funny. My husband's a Subie tech but has also worked for a VW dealership, so I've heard it all about both kinds of cars. I like both Subarus and Volkswagens. Chet's photo of the vintage Karman Ghia made me drool but for a new or recent car, I think I'd choose Subaru.

    BTW, Subaru does a lot of marketing in gay publications, hence the "lesbian driver" image. They're also very popular in the hiking and backpacking crowd. I see a lot of Subarus parked at trailheads.

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    Cyburbian Emeritus Chet's avatar
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    Originally posted by Mud Princess
    ...Chet's photo of the vintage Karman Ghia made me drool...
    This was my Ghia, purchased in 1999 on eBay for $600.

    I marathon-roadtripped with two good buddiesto Newport News, VA to pick her up. Literally left work Friday night and got on the road at 6PM, drove non-stop (which was interesting becasue it was 3 days after Hurricane Flloyd hit the coast), picked her up at 1PM saturady, and was home for breakfast 8AM Sunday morning.

    I sold her when I bought a colonial with a 2 car garage on an alley, a 40 foot wide lot with no room for a parking pad, and had 4 cars + the hog. *SIGH*

    Fortunately,

    BUGFEST is held every year and there's a great swap meet / sale section, and next time I wont have to do the restoration myself.

    EDIT: OMG *thats* what the Land Rover looked like when it had a clear coat finish on the paint. These days it is almost pink from oxydation (and polka dotted with shiney tree sap!) Prudence cringes when he sees it.

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