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    Celestial Village: Subdivision Names

    I cringed when I picked up today's real estate section and found the grand opening of a new subdivision, "Celestial Village" featured. I can't imagine having to tell my friends or business associates that I had found a perfect new home in a community with such a name.

    There is also a new development of what look to be attractive townhomes titled "Paddy's Row". EEEK. Surely I'm not the only person who has a very negative connotation of the term Paddy. What are they thinking?

    Do developers in my neck of the woods just have very poor taste in subdivision names or is this a common problem throughout the country?

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    You are not alone...2 big pics (broadband)

    Look at this gem of a name for a subdivision near me. It makes me cringe. This place is the opposite of walkable, human-scale developments of the past.





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    Apparently they're making vain attempts at creativity upon realizing that all the _____ meadows (sans meadow) fox run (sans foxes) and deer parks (sans deer) had been taken. Popular around here are names that connote exclusivity and incorporate words like "society" or "reserve" or "enclave" into the name. One othe more unique ones I've seen lately that (amazingly) connotes community is "The Gatherings", which is a 55+ development.
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    That "Feild of Dreams' is hideous!!!

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    Sounds like the saying:

    "Suburbs are where you cut down all the trees and name the streets after them"

    Or Joel Garreau's observation that subdivisions are often named after whatever was there before they bulldozed it.

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    There is actually a street in East Amherst, NY called Deer Run. Which is very appropraite because the area is known for having a large deer population which is in constant conflict with the area residents. As a result the town has introduced a bait and shoot program where police go out into the remaining wooded areas and shoot the deer. The program was recently put on hold after a stray bullet ended up in someones house.

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    Quote Originally posted by Jeff_Rosenberg
    Sounds like the saying:

    "Suburbs are where you cut down all the trees and name the streets after them"

    Or Joel Garreau's observation that subdivisions are often named after whatever was there before they bulldozed it.
    Maybe there is a former celestial village on the site.

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    http://www.dreams-nonsense.net/waking/celestial.jpg

    Last edited by NHPlanner; 19 Apr 2005 at 10:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally posted by Follow the $$
    Do developers in my neck of the woods just have very poor taste in subdivision names or is this a common problem throughout the country?
    In Louisville there is a sudivision called "The Garden of Eden", and it had two streets. Guess the street names.

    Nearby was Elysian Fields...oddly enough the main street was "Youngstown way" (this was nowheres near any heavy industry).

    Also, "Confederate Acres", with the main street, "Robert E Lee Drive".

    And (WWII developments), "Lake Dreamland" and "Lake Louisvilla".

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    You have to name them something, right? Instead of complaining, Let's come up with some better names!

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    Quote Originally posted by gkmo62u
    You have to name them something, right? Instead of complaining, Let's come up with some better names!
    I forget exactly where, but there is also a typical suburban-style subdivision here in the Appleton, WI area called 'Field of Dreams'.

    I wonder if there is some way to make the word 'Beige' fit into a flowery development name...

    Mike

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    Quote Originally posted by mgk920
    I forget exactly where, but there is also a typical suburban-style subdivision here in the Appleton, WI area called 'Field of Dreams'.

    I wonder if there is some way to make the word 'Beige' fit into a flowery development name...

    Mike
    Beige Buttes ?
    Khaki Canyon?
    Big Beige Barns?
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    Khaki Canyon actually has a ring to it.... an adventure themed development? with specially rough roads to take your SUV down.. and the barbed wire around the perimeter could make it double as a gated community!

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    I know this has been mentioned before, but generally arent planning authorities too busy to really be bothered with the names applied to new development. It is becoming an issue now in Dublin, as street names, which used to be bilingual (Gaelic and English) are now English only. This leads to a very Anglicised translation of what the Gaelic words sound like in English, (example Fuar Cnoc, in Gealic means "Cold Hill", but it has been translated for marketing purposes into "Four knocks" because it is easier on the tounge). I think that using something like "Paddy's Row for a development is quite important, in that it gives a definite historical context as to who lived in an area over time. Over time, as people live in an area, such place names become innofensive and a part of the areas character. I live in an area of the city which isnt far from a road historically called "Misery Hill". Very expensive apartments were built there recently and the developer and new inhabitants saw the marketing opportunity it presented straight away. That said "field of dreams" is a bridge too far. Who is going to swallow that one?

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    FIELD OF DREAMS!?!?!

    That is horrible! By the way, really like the porta-potty sitting in the street. If I was in high school there's absolutely no way I could resist that!

    I think I've mentioned this before, but one of the streets in my TOWN NEXT DOOR has the best name ever... "Oak Sprawl" Talk about ironic, it is the entrance to one of the worst sprawl-y neighborhoods in the area and oak trees are what used to be there.

    "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

    - Herman Göring at the Nuremburg trials (thoughts on democracy)

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    Some of my favorites here in Charlotte:

    Valley Ridge
    Ridge Valley
    Patriot Acres (opened after 9/11)
    Optimist Park (borders a slum)
    Little Hope Rd (runs through a public housing project)
    River Run (which is nowhere near a river)
    Glendale (Is it a glen or is it a dale?)
    Dawnwood Forest (no forest in sight after all the trees were bulldozed to build it)
    Mountainbrook (again, neither are present...looked at buying a house there...loved the house, but couldn't bring myself to actually live on Tinkerbell Lane.)

    Here's a fun little site. The random subdivision/housing development/rest home name generator.
    http://adrian.gimp.org/cgi-bin/sub.cgi

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    Quote Originally posted by gkmo62u
    You have to name them something, right? Instead of complaining, Let's come up with some better names!
    I prefer ________'s annex to the City of ______________
    or
    _________'s 3rd addition to the City of ______________

    We have a bunch of stupid names like

    Timber Ridge
    Edgewyld
    Lynnwood
    Northtrail Meadows
    Pinnacle
    Rustic Oaks
    Rolling Acres
    The Knolls
    Knollwood
    Knollaire

    You live in a town. I like history naming areas rather than a developer or marketer.
    I know... marketers and developers historically have named some rather well-known neighborhoods
    Last edited by boiker; 18 Apr 2005 at 11:08 AM.
    Dude, I'm cheesing so hard right now.

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    Quote Originally posted by chukky
    Khaki Canyon actually has a ring to it.... an adventure themed development? with specially rough roads to take your SUV down.. and the barbed wire around the perimeter could make it double as a gated community!
    I'm sorry, but Khaki Canyon sounds like the name of a porn star.

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    There is a Nature Cove CT in Williamsville, NY. I supposse humans are a part of nature...

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    Shadowlawn - could that be a name for cemetery also ?
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    There is talk of building condos and single families on the property of the old psychiatric hospital near me. Portions of it are still being used as such, including a high-security facility for the criminally insane. It will be interesting to see what kind of names they come up with. Hmmm, do we allude to the history or do we try to mask it altogether? Any suggestions? Asylum Acres, The Happy Forest, Freudian Fields, Jungian Estates? Its actually a beautiful property, rumored to be laid out by the Olmsted Brothers.
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    "Field of Dream"....how about "Sea of Asphalt", That street looks like its 50 feet wide!!

    I too would not be able to resist the porta pot

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    Lol

    Very funny- this thread is a riot to read!

    I have to say, the white picket fence conveys a sense of country livin' that jes cain't be found anymore. Well not wit all them suburbain livin places poppin up!
    The epitome of form follows function.

    p.s. the fenced out fire hydrant...? haha

    p.p.s. I can't stand those tract homes with the fake storm shutters for the windows!

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    Quote Originally posted by Follow the $$
    I cringed when I picked up today's real estate section and found the grand opening of a new subdivision, "Celestial Village" featured.
    Isn't that the slur used for the Chinese in "Deadwood?"

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    In Brisbane there was a hosunig estate called 'Sunnybank Approach' which was in Runcron, a lower profile suburb next door.

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    I don't get many subdivisions thrown my way..."Cityplace" is the only major one right now, and I don't mind the name too much. It really should be "suburban place in the city" though...towers in the park really.

    What I do see are a lot of crappy-named condo developments. Naming them after places in New York seems to be the big thing right now.

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