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    eG -
    I like your additions to the list.

    and would you consider adding -
    Chester William Nimitz
    William Frederick Halsey, Jr.
    Hyman G. Rickover
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    Z Man is echoing the post from EG... How true How true.
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    You can go out, you can take a ride/And when you get out on your own/You get all smoothed out inside/And it's good to be alone
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    Why no John Quincy Adams? He was probably the greatest American statesman of his day.

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    Quote Originally posted by jordanb
    Why no John Quincy Adams? He was probably the greatest American statesman of his day.
    You're quite right! That was a big oversight on my part. Good catch.

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    Among the 100 greatest American that were not included: Sam Houston.

    Here is a man who served as governor of Tennessee and Texas, president of the Republic of Texas, won one of the most decisive battles in history with little loss of life, served in Congress for both Tennessee and Texas, and was a US Senator for Texas. He stood on his principles as a loyal U.S. citizen when Texas left the Union and was removed from office as governor of Texas. A politician with noble principles. A great American, indeed.
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    OMG!!! So many of El Guapo's people were on my list, too, including Alexander Hamilton, Lewis and Clark, Andrew Carnegie and George Marshall. I thought about John Brown, but there's so much controversy surrounding him, even today.

    Two I might add -- W.E.B. DuBois, who established the philosophical and legal construct for attacking 20th century segregation, and Thurgood Marshall, who did successfully attack segregation (the lead lawyer for Brown v. Board of Ed.) and became a Supreme Court Justice.

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    Quote Originally posted by pete-rock
    OMG!!! So many of El Guapo's people were on my list, too, including Alexander Hamilton, Lewis and Clark, Andrew Carnegie and George Marshall. I thought about John Brown, but there's so much controversy surrounding him, even today.

    Two I might add -- W.E.B. DuBois, who established the philosophical and legal construct for attacking 20th century segregation, and Thurgood Marshall, who did successfully attack segregation (the lead lawyer for Brown v. Board of Ed.) and became a Supreme Court Justice.
    I too like E.G's list and also think that W.E.B. DuBois should be on there. As for Andrew Carnegie... Well, during his life he was not exactly beloved by all, especially after his response to the Homestead labor riots, but he was responsible for a lot of the heavy industrialization of the US and his money has likely had more tangible benefit for this country than probably all the other billionaires combined. Goodness knows that the city I live in probably wouldn’t have made it through de-industrialization as it did without the institutions and resources he left behind.

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    A short list from the Bear would include.....

    Abraham Lincoln
    Martin Luther King, Jr.
    Franklin Delano Roosevelt
    Dwight Eisenhour
    Bob Hope
    Walt Disney
    Hugh Hefner
    Everybody Involved In Exposing Watergate
    Anybody Who Donates Organs, Bone Marrow, Etc.
    Henry Ford
    Terry Bradshaw
    Thomas Edison

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    Here are some more potential "missings". Whether they belong on the list or not is debatable, but they're all more worthy than Barack Obama and Dr Phil.

    Ulysses S. Grant
    Robert E. Lee
    John Pershing
    Hin-mah-too-yah-lat-kekt (Chief Joseph)
    Sequoya
    John Adams (if Jefferson and Hamilton belong, so does Adams)
    Andrew Jackson
    James Madison
    Clara Barton
    Robert Fulton
    Cyrus Hall McCormick
    Henry Kissinger

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    Quote Originally posted by Bear Up North
    Everybody Involved In Exposing Watergate
    Speaking of which, it looks like the mystery of the identity of "Deep Throat" has finally been uncovered.....Former FBI official W. Mark Felt reveals that he was Deep Throat in the next issue of Vanity Fair magazine:

    http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/20...064925-ap.html
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    I give no respect to a list that does not include Howard Zinn as one of the greatest Americans.

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    Sojourner Truth - for risking her life to help slaves escape via the Underground Railroad and for being a champion of womens' rights.
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    I think both the Adams belong at the top of the list. Who knows where we would be without them activating the public against the British rule.

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    Who invented birth control? Gets my vote.

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    Quote Originally posted by Planderella
    Sojourner Truth - for risking her life to help slaves escape via the Underground Railroad and for being a champion of womens' rights.
    Another often over shadowed person from the trenches... Medgar Evers.

    What no Malcolm X? This crowd is so Booker T.
    "And all this terrible change had come about because he had ceased to believe himself and had taken to believing others. " - Leo Tolstoy

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    Who invented birth control? Gets my vote.
    ^ Not american.

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    Quote Originally posted by jordanb
    I've read parts of his autobiography and although he was a womanizer (and not the least bit ashamed of it) I don't recall that he drank except occasionally. No way was he drunken by the standards of the time.
    I have read a few books on him, and it was a womanizer, and he did have a few from time to time. I also read reports of him doing other "substances" as well. It was not too much different than many of the individuals with power today. Franklin decided not to hide it.

    I also think that the way that he went about things and "worked" people was his greatest quality. He had an unbelievable amount of influence in the creation of our country, winning the revolutionary war, and overall influence of more things than we even realize.
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    I'm going to chime in and agree with eG on his assessment as well as some of the additions (DuBois, Marshall, Houston).

    eG, your lucky there aren't more Green Bay cheeseheads on here--taking Favre off the list of greatest Americans is liable to get you hanged on the 50 at Lambeau!

    "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

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    Quote Originally posted by Budgie
    Another often over shadowed person from the trenches... Medgar Evers.

    What no Malcolm X? This crowd is so Booker T.
    Malcom X is listed. I'd also add Nelson Mandela.
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    Quote Originally posted by Planderella
    Malcom X is listed. I'd also add Nelson Mandela.
    When did Nelson Mandela naturalize?


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    Quote Originally posted by Planderella
    I'd also add Nelson Mandela.
    Why? Did I miss something? Is he an American citizen? (edit; dang it eG, you got to it first )

    Alexander Hamilton should be rather high on the list, because he was instrumental in establishing our current national monetary system. A national bank was quite astounding at the time.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

    The ends can justify the means.

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    Quote Originally posted by el Guapo
    When did Nelson Mandela naturalize?


    Running for cover......
    DUH!!!!!!!! I was thinking of greatest humanitarians when I posted that.
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    Quote Originally posted by Zoning Goddess
    Who invented birth control? Gets my vote.
    She didn't invent it, but Margaret Sanger did more than anyone to promote awareness of and access to birth control, by opening the first U.S. family planning and birth control clinic in Brooklyn, during WWI.

    Besides Sanger, among those not already mentioned I would add:

    Louis Armstrong
    Jonas Salk
    Alfred Kinsey
    Jane Jacobs
    Bob Dylan
    Jane Addams
    James Baldwin
    "The current American way of life is founded not just on motor transportation but on the religion of the motorcar, and the sacrifices that people are prepared to make for this religion stand outside the realm of rational criticism." -Lewis Mumford

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    They are notable enough to be on their State's Quarter, then are they worthy enough to be considered ?

    Helen Keller, Alabama
    John Muir, California
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