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    I've been to all of the beaches. I would place the beaches of the Pinery Provincial Park or Grand Bend Ontario before that of Bayfield. Otherwise spot on. Lots of nice beaches in the Great Lakes. Its about time we got some love.
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    Sleeping Bear is right at the top of my favorite places to be in Michigan - right up there with the Silver Lake dunes in Hart, MI which also has some great beaches but you generally have to deal with a much larger and louder crowd than at Sleeping Bear.

    And I agree with DetroitPlanner that Grand Bend and the Pinery are some great beaches. I used to have a friend who's neighbors had a cottage just north of Grand Bend right on the lake. It was always a lot of fun going there when I was a little kid because the cottage was right near the road and then there was a tiny, rickety staircase leading down about 70' or so to get to the beach (or at least that's what it seemed like to me as a 10-year-old... if I went back now I'd probably think it was closer to 25').
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    I'm heading back to the Pictured Rocks/Muinsing last week in August. First time since 1998 and I can't hardly wait. I'll be going from extreme to the other., from one coast to the other.
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    Memory-Making on Michigan’s Beaches

    The west coast of lower michigan places.
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    Weather Channel - Storm Stories - LEGEND OF THE CHRISTMAS TREE SHIP

    Another website for this story THE CHICAGO HISTORY JOURNAL: http://www.chicagohistoryjournal.com...tree-ship.html


    Current story: http://christmasship.org/
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    I wonder where that ship is going to ...



    Real-time marine traffic, including freighters on the Great Lakes.
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    Quote Originally posted by Dan View post
    I wonder where that ship is going to ...

    Real-time marine traffic, including freighters on the Great Lakes.
    That is fantastic. I've spent quite a bit of time on a friend's property in DeTour Village, MI (easternmost point of the UP excepting Drummond Island), watching the freighters go through the passage. That will be so cool to track the ships coming and going.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dan View post
    I wonder where that ship is going to ...



    Real-time marine traffic, including freighters on the Great Lakes.
    This is SO COOL! Thanks for the link. I intend to make use of this the next weekend we stop in Grand Haven, Holland, or South Haven!
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    Quote Originally posted by Dan View post
    I wonder where that ship is going to ...

    Real-time marine traffic, including freighters on the Great Lakes.
    Just used the ship name search function - south of Detroit approaching Lake Erie.
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    Quote Originally posted by Dan View post
    I wonder where that ship is going to ...

    Real-time marine traffic, including freighters on the Great Lakes.
    Used the ship name search function -
    Destination: ERIE, PA
    .
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    Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
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    Interesting Article -

    Shrinking ice worries Great Lakes scientists
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/weathe...s-ice/1970939/

    Anybody notice this first hand ? I bet you the Bear would have had something to say.

    Related photos of Great Lake Ice -
    http://projecticemovie.com/Welcome.html

    and found this website - Great Lakes Echo
    http://greatlakesecho.org/
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    Quote Originally posted by JNA View post
    Interesting Article -

    Shrinking ice worries Great Lakes scientists
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/weathe...s-ice/1970939/

    Anybody notice this first hand ? I bet you the Bear would have had something to say.

    Related photos of Great Lake Ice -
    http://projecticemovie.com/Welcome.html

    and found this website - Great Lakes Echo
    http://greatlakesecho.org/
    Last year nothing froze over. It was too warm. This was true for even Mackinaw Island which depends on the frozen waters to make it to and from the mainland in winter. The boats were able to operate all winter though. This week the Detroit River is full of sheets of ice making their way from Lac Ste Clair to Lac Erie. I don't see this as a huge trend. Most years it freezes over somewhat. In some years it don't. Some years water levels are high, other years they are low. The Great Lakes region is a complex eco-system operating in a complex environment. We're North, but not so far North where weather won't vary from season to season. I am more concerned about lake levels as along with last years low snow and ice came low levels of water screwing up navigation in and out of ports similar in fashion as what was seen on the Mississippi.
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    Lake Erie Facts
    http://www.livescience.com/34480-lake-erie.html

    Lake Erie also has its own legendary lake monster — Bessie — which is mostly likely a huge sturgeon.
    Doesn't every lake have one.
    Oddball
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    Broke parts take a little longer, though.
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    Quote Originally posted by JNA View post
    http://travel.usatoday.com/destinati...hes/49003198/1
    Good layout with
    Where:
    Why:
    Don't miss:
    Off-the-beach-diversion:
    More info


    Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore - Lake Michigan - MI side

    Presque Isle State Park - Lake Erie - PA

    Sand Point Beach, Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore - Lake Superior - UP

    Bayfield Main Beach - Lake Huron side

    Oak Street Beach - Lake Michigan. - IL side

    Who's been there ?
    Are they worthy of such acclaim ?
    I've been on Sand Point Beach before. The whole Pictured Rocks is worth the acclaim itself.There are prettier beaches at Pictured Rocks, but they are harder to get to.
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    BUMP

    HEADLINE: Freeze pushes Great Lakes ice cover toward '79 record
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/weathe...lakes/5478697/
    HIGHLIGHT:
    The ice cover on the lakes increased from 79.7% to 88.4% just in the past week, putting the region close to the record of almost 95% set in February 1979,
    and more at: http://www.local12.com/news/features...l#.Uv5bG3nspG4



    very interesting website:
    National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory (GLERL)http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/
    specifically -
    Current Ice Cover Conditions http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/data/ice/ click on Current Conditions
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    The Great Lakes Are Ice-Free After Seven Months
    http://www.scienceworldreport.com/ar...ven-months.htm


    At 11:25 a.m. on Wednesday, June 11, 2014, the Great Lakes were officially declared ice-free after seven months of frozen conditions on the waters.
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    Water Levels

    Good news for the Great Lakes: water levels are significantly higher this summer than in more than 15 years: Water Levels
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    Quote Originally posted by Linda_D View post
    Good news for the Great Lakes: water levels are significantly higher this summer than in more than 15 years: Water Levels
    Shhh all of the uppity folks living in the arid West will want to steal it!
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    All we need.......

    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    Shhh all of the uppity folks living in the arid West will want to steal it!
    We are going to get that water.........a 240 inch pipe should do the trick.....above ground through Illinois, Iowa and Nebraska then underground to the top of the continental divide in Colorado (because we care how Colorado looks). Then that bad boy would drop all the way into Southern California and I can have my 45 minute high flow shower back!!


    One of you nerds run the cost analysis for 10,639,200 feet of 240 inch pipe and tell me the pressure levels in that pipe coming off the continental divide and get back to me ok.......
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    Quote Originally posted by The One View post
    We are going to get that water.........a 240 inch pipe should do the trick.....above ground through Illinois, Iowa and Nebraska then underground to the top of the continental divide in Colorado (because we care how Colorado looks). Then that bad boy would drop all the way into Southern California and I can have my 45 minute high flow shower back!!


    One of you nerds run the cost analysis for 10,639,200 feet of 240 inch pipe and tell me the pressure levels in that pipe coming off the continental divide and get back to me ok.......
    Ha! Tell you what why not connect into the illinois river. That way you can get all of the asian flying silver carp. They will help push the water up the mountains for you by there incredible swiming abilities. You don't want them in your revers though, they eat everything in sight. I guess it takes a lot of energy to remian that active. http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...r-flying-carp/
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    Naaaaah, just use unit trains of tank cars, like the oil companies are being forced to because their needed new pipelines are not being approved quickly enough.



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    Quote Originally posted by The One View post
    We are going to get that water.........a 240 inch pipe should do the trick.....above ground through Illinois, Iowa and Nebraska then underground to the top of the continental divide in Colorado (because we care how Colorado looks). Then that bad boy would drop all the way into Southern California and I can have my 45 minute high flow shower back!!


    One of you nerds run the cost analysis for 10,639,200 feet of 240 inch pipe and tell me the pressure levels in that pipe coming off the continental divide and get back to me ok.......
    Tho I don't have a dog in this fight anymore...... If you want Great Lakes water, move to one of the Great Lakes states. If not, learn to drink sand.
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    Quote Originally posted by Whose Yur Planner View post
    Tho I don't have a dog in this fight anymore...... If you want Great Lakes water, move to one of the Great Lakes states. If not, learn to drink sand.
    More accurately, if you want Great Lakes water, move to the Great Lakes watershed and specifically a local regional watershed that drains to a Great Lake, not just a Great Lakes state.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

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    Quote Originally posted by Whose Yur Planner View post
    Tho I don't have a dog in this fight anymore...... If you want Great Lakes water, move to one of the Great Lakes states. If not, learn to drink sand.
    Sounds fair to me. It takes a lot of snow and rain to keep those big basins filled, so we don't get 300+ sunny days a year. Jamestown does get about 150 inches of snow every winter, though, and Buffalo gets about 100. A little further west, on what's called the Chautauqua Ridge, 200 inches a year is the norm. I think the Tug Hill Plateau northwest of Syracuse gets significantly more than that.

    Quote Originally posted by mendelman View post
    More accurately, if you want Great Lakes water, move to the Great Lakes watershed and specifically a local regional watershed that drains to a Great Lake, not just a Great Lakes state.
    Except for the folks in the western parts of Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Illinois, lots of folks who aren't in a Great Lakes watershed get GL water since the weather conditions that are spawned over the expanses of lake water produce the infamous "lake effect" snow and rain all over GL region, especially to the east and south of the lakes.
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