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Poll results: Variation or Variance

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  • Variation - silky soothe

    1 6.67%
  • Variance - don't you know property English usage

    9 60.00%
  • Interchangeable

    0 0%
  • Who gives a flying f........

    5 33.33%
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Thread: Variance or Variation?

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    Unfrozen Caveman Planner mendelman's avatar
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    Variance or Variation?

    I have a quandry. It seems that in our field whenever someone needs to exceed the bounds of the Zoning Code they need to request a variance (or is it variation) to allow them to proceed.

    Well, which of the two words do you use most often, and is one more proper than the other?

    I generally use variation all the time. It sounds better to my ear than variance.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

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    Cyburbian Wannaplan?'s avatar
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    Here's how I think of it - if an applicant believes a variation is in order, the applicant has to go before the ZBA and request a variance from the applicable zoning ordinance requirement. In my mind, they are two different things.

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    How about "alternative" ?
    Just kidding, I say variance most of the time. Its what I was taught in school and it seems to have stuck.

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    Cyburbian SGB's avatar
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    Under New York State law, it's variance.

    According to one of the definitions available at Merriam WebsterOnline:
    4 : a license to do some act contrary to the usual rule <a zoning variance>
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    Quote Originally posted by SGB
    Under New York State law, it's variance.
    SGB beat me to it: if your state statute calls it "putting innocent law-abiding property-rights protected folks through a whole lot o' rigamarole" or "variance" your zoning code better call it exactly the same thing. Grammar nazis or no!
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    Cyburbian nerudite's avatar
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    I use variance if it's related to zoning... but often I use variation if it's related to changing something on a land use plan or a policy, just so someone doesn't confuse it with the zoning variance process.

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    California state law, it's a variance. Findings are very hard to make, so a [well run] planning program will have very few.

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    Forums Administrator & Gallery Moderator NHPlanner's avatar
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    Variance under NH State law.
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    By Indiana Code it is a variance.

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