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Poll results: Stick Shift Poll

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  • Never drove and never owned a stick shift vehicle

    4 12.12%
  • Have driven but never owned a stick shift vehicle

    6 18.18%
  • Owned a stick shift on the column vehicle

    0 0%
  • Four-on-the-floor stick shift, baby!

    12 36.36%
  • Owned both column and floor stick shift vehicles

    5 15.15%
  • Other (See comments below)

    4 12.12%
  • They took my license away

    0 0%
  • What's a car?

    2 6.06%
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Thread: Stick Shift Thread & Poll

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    Cyburbian Emeritus Bear Up North's avatar
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    Stick Shift Thread & Poll

    As mentioned in the RANDOM THOUGHTS thread, this dude in Shawnee, KS, tried to steal a Chevy Camaro but couldn't.....he didn't know how to operate a manual (stick) transmission. Hah!

    Moments after I posted, chukky responded with a comment relating to that.

    Time for a poll.
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    This Bear has had more than twenty (20) different vehicles in the many years that I have been driving (since 1964). Most of those vehicles had manual (stick) transmissions. The Toyota truck I drive now is automatic.....not because I like automatic. That's the only trannny available when you buy the extra cab.....at least in this here neck of the woods.

    Automatic transmissions have really improved in quality in the last rwenty (20) years. Back "in the day", we stayed away from automatics because they always had problems.....and with a stick, if you have a starting issue you just get a push and pop the clutch. Presto!

    I even had a 1961 Buick (or was it a 1962?) that had a manual transmission on the column. When the shift handle broke the dealer in Bowling Green, OH, looked it up and said, "Looks like only a couple hundred of this type were made by Buick. Good luck getting a part." (I used vice-grips to shift after that.)

    So......enlighten us with you vote and enthrall us with your best and worst manual transmission stories.

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    Cyburbian Richmond Jake's avatar
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    Let's see....my first drive was my dad's Studebaker pick up (three on the tree (Hollis liked that ride)). Had drivers ed in a VW beetle with a 4 speed manual transmission. I drove my sister's Datsun (four on the floor). And I once owned a BMW 320i with five on the floor. I now let my pick up shift for its self.
    Last edited by Richmond Jake; 01 Oct 2005 at 8:30 AM.
    Annoyingly insensitive

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    Cyburbian Plus JNA's avatar
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    Owned 2 -
    1st was a Ford Bronco II - 4 wheel drive w/ manual locking hubs. 5 speed w/ a second stick for the 4 wheel drive tranfercase - 4H, 4L, N, 2H.

    most recent was a Saturn SL2 - 5 speed

    Have driven my brother's various cars that were manual.
    Back when, the Fire Dept had Water Tankers that were manual - loaded they were beasts to drive.
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    Cyburbian Jen's avatar
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    5 on the floor baby, Passat wagon, learned to drive stick on a column mounted ford falcon. Now back to driving the H pattern on the Hubby's SPyder JD'S (50th anive of death this weekend) That's a different feeling, no power anything practically have to stand on the pedals. BUt what fun!!

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    Have to say, I'm the only person I know who literally can't drive an auto. Completely hopeless. I shoot through intersections, forget to brake, hit the brake instead of the clutch. It's not pretty.

    Auto driving requires you brake so much, and so hard. Don't you all get sore ankles? With a manual you shift down, and you get engine braking. All is good.

    But thats a personal bias. My dad had a theory, when I learnt to drive, that anyone who cant drive on a reasonably empty road that they know well, (ie, get home at four in the morning) with their brakelines cut shouldnt have a licence (along with his be able to drive without headlights theory, be able to drive with all the mirrors removed and in the glovebox theory, be able to put an SUV into a spot marked "small cars only" etc). Hence I learnt to rely on the gearbox. You just cant do that in an auto.

    EDIT: actually i probably should have checked the "they took my licence away" box. I'm expecting the letter on monday. I'll either have one hell of a fine and a single point left on my licence, or a choice between a 12 month good behaviour bond OR a three month suspension.

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    Owned all types. I once had a 62 chevy pickup with the 3 on the tree. The shifter was worn, and sometimes if you didn't shift quite right it would stick between first and second. Then you had to stop, block the wheels, open the hood, pull up on the shifter on the firewall, close the hood, put it back in first, un block the wheels and take off again....
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    Cyburbian Richmond Jake's avatar
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    Quote Originally posted by giff57
    Owned all types. I once had a 62 chevy pickup with the 3 on the tree. The shifter was worn, and sometimes if you didn't shift quite right it would stick between first and second. Then you had to stop, block the wheels, open the hood, pull up on the shifter on the firewall, close the hood, put it back in first, un block the wheels and take off again....
    Oh that’s great giff! It reminds me of when my younger brother and I would turn the starter in dad’s Studie while in gear and just take off!!! And it had a rusted hole in the floorboard to drop the empties thru (I hope Tom sees this, he'll remember). Good times. Very good times.
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    i've only owned one car and it is an automatic. i learned to drive on an automatic though my mother made sure that we all knew how to drive a stick-shift as well. . ."just in case you need to get to the hospital and there's only a stick-shift available."

    my mom was a bit of a worrier.


    my one boyfriend had a standard for a while. when we moved out to AZ we only had that car so i got to drop him off at school and then continue on to work in that car. zooooom! i had lots of fun driving that car, at least when it wasn't stop and go traffic. these days when i'm stuck in stop and go traffic and thank the heavens that i have an automatic.
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    Stick shifts rule!

    You can downshift instead of brake in teh snow, go down mountains slower, and get three or four miles per gallon than the exact same car with a automatic transmission.

    I've been driving a '93 Ford Escort with a manual transmission for almost 12 years.

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    Quote Originally posted by Super Amputee Cat
    Stick shifts rule!

    You can downshift instead of brake in teh snow, go down mountains slower, and get three or four miles per gallon than the exact same car with a automatic transmission.

    I've been driving a '93 Ford Escort with a manual transmission for almost 12 years.
    Right now, I'm driving a very reliable and rust-free 1997 Cavalier with a 4-speed automatic, but still long for the feelings of much better control that manual transmissions give.

    That said, the L1, L2 and L3 settings on an automatic are actually 'downshift' gears that have the same effect as do the lower gears on a manual. They tell the transmission not to shift higher than that gear and allow me to use engine braking and have the better lower gear control for hills, city streets and other traffic congested places that I otherwise would have if I were driving a manual.

    Mike

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    Had a Jeep CJ-5 (3 speed) and a Mazda RX-7 (5 speed) and have driven many other sticks but those were the two that I owned. Both were lots of fun. I drove both when I was in my early-mid 20's. The novelty and fun of driving has long since worn off on me, so now I drive a white automatic sedan. Did I mention that I'm married, have a kid, and a mortgage too? (sigh)
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    Oh there is a funny story that goes with this..

    I learned on a 4 on the floor but then drove auto.

    When I got married to number 1 we bought a truck, 3 on the column. I drove it around town with no problem. We lived out in the country and he leaves me there with the truck. I say that I am not comfortable driving it but lord for bid he did not want me driving his Roadrunner, so if I wanted to leave I would just have to figure it out.
    Well I get in and drive to town with little or no trouble and I picked up my little brothers and took them back out to the house.
    Well when I got back in to take them back home. I couldn't hit 1st. Kept putting it in 3rd and killing it. 45 minutes in the drive before I finbally figured it out. I was crying and very mad.
    It is all a matter of perspective!!!

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    I drove one in high school when we had a VW Thing, but it's been so many years, I wouldn't have a prayer of driving a manual now.

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    So far, I've had a Jetta 5-speed, a Subaru auto, and a Golf 5-speed. Although the Subie's easier in heavy traffic, I'd choose a 5-speed (or 6!) over an auto any day. More fun, more control, cheaper, and if you're a woman, the dealers don't hararass you so much because they figure if you can shift, you can drive and don't need to be fussed over so much (although I did stall that A-3 when I test-drove it ). Worst thing to happen in a stick was my old Jetta; the clutch cable snapped when it was in 3rd gear, and I managed to drive it nearly 2 miles back to work without stalling, but then made the mistake of parking in a space that had to be backed out of. My poor husband and the AAA guy were not happy with me, especially since it was pouring at the time...
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    I've driven a red Honda Prelude with a standard, but only in a parking lot. My mama wouldn't trust me trying out on a street or on a highway.

    So far, I've been up as high as #3 on the standard. Someday, I'll hit #5 on the standard.

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    Manual transmissions make sense on fun-to-drive cars. I had two Jaguars, a Lotus, and Nissan SER, where manual shift made the cars a blast to drive. I didn't feel the same about a Jetta with stick. It was comptent but not fun. Honda 600 with stick was an adventure in its own league and fun just because it was what it was. I should have gotten a stick on the Maxima because the engine was so strong, but the rest of the car was boring. Hmmm. Everything else was automatic. I am thinking about but probably wont get a Mini. Stick makes a huge difference. If you want to do yourself an automotive favor, go to your Mini dealer and take a test ride in an "S" with stick.

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    Cyburbian nerudite's avatar
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    I've driven stick maybe three times in my life. I counted that as the top, since I did it badly. I would like to re-learn sometime though.

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    Cyburbian Richmond Jake's avatar
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    Quote Originally posted by Zoning Goddess
    .... I wouldn't have a prayer of driving a manual now.
    Oh lord, don't make me respond....please!!!
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    I learned to drive in a 1974 Volare, stick shift. Yeah!? I’m sorry for that information.

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    Quote Originally posted by ICT/316
    I learned to drive in a 1974 Volare, stick shift. Yeah!? I’m sorry for that information.
    I didn't think they made Volares until 1976

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    My first car was a 4 on the floor, a classic 1981 Mazda 626, and my truck (junker) now is a 5 on the floor. But the one I learned on was a 1974 Datsun pickup. Always a stick-shift for me!

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    I've owned 2 manuals so far - a 1992 Subaru Loyale wagon (4wd) and a 2wd 1999 Escort wagon. Both were alright, acceleration wise, but I liked the Loyale much more than the Escort, because of the 4wd nature and the big long shifter sticking out of the floor....it was like have a big rig shifter.

    I never got to drive it, but my brother drove my grandpa's 1971 GMC truck for a couple years. It had "3 on the tree" and was more durable than a Bangkok whore. He beat the hell out of the transmission, and it just kept going (it had the straight six engine, which I understand was quite a powerhouse "small" engine.

    Also, my brother always raves about the 1987 Saab 9000 turbo he had. He got it at 170,000 miles and it would still kill a brand new camaro on the twistys.

    One last one, my brother also had a 1977 Mustang (read: Pinto), with a 302 ci engine wedged in it. It had four on the floor and when he brake torqued it, he could feel the frame and body twisting around him.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

    The ends can justify the means.

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    6 on the floor for me, I hate driving automatics!
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    What's a car???
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    Dodge Colt - 5 speed.
    Volvo 240 - 5 speed.
    Ford Escort - 5 speed.

    I guess I have about 200,000 on a gearbox.

    Let's also not forget motorcycle miles.

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