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    Quote Originally posted by mendelman View post
    Well...15 years from now, I'll be 50....so try to catch me as I briskly walk away from you.....
    You only think you're walking briskly because you've started down that slope yourself.
    “Nonconformity is the highest evolutionary attainment of social animals.” ― Aldo Leopold

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    I can't believe I am older than so many of you in here

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    Quote Originally posted by mendelman View post
    Well...15 years from now, I'll be 50....so try to catch me as I briskly walk away from you.....
    [clint voice]

    Get off my lawn.

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    15 years ago...

    The Twin Towers yet stood...
    The Iraq war was Operation Desert Storm...
    The Afghan War was the failed Soviet invasion of 1980...
    My son was 14 months and my daughter still a glimmer in my eye...
    I have seen
    old ships sailing
    like swans asleep

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    Quote Originally posted by luckless pedestrian View post
    ...
    hilldweller - oh yeah - loved my Olds station wagons in the 80's - you could fit a whole party in one!
    Growing up in the 70's we had Olds Custom Cruiser Stationwagon - 3 rows of seats & towing package. Took my driving test in it oh yeah I paralleled parked it.

    Street Planner - me ?
    the elitist suburbanited - don't even kow who or what that means..
    Oddball
    Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
    Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
    Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
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    No. Just some parts wake up faster than others.
    Broke parts take a little longer, though.
    From Electric Horseman (1979)

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    Quote Originally posted by JNA View post
    the elitist suburbanited - don't even kow who or what that means..
    It means d and s are really close to each other on the qwerty.
    “Nonconformity is the highest evolutionary attainment of social animals.” ― Aldo Leopold

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    Quote Originally posted by ursus View post
    Is this some kind of a prank? Their post dates precede their sign-up dates? I am a member since 2008 but I posted this is 1998?
    Long story: before the Cyburbia Forums (which uses vBulletin), there was the Cyburbia Cafe (which used the WWWBoard and Discus scripts). Before the Cyburbia Cafe, there was PAIRC. Several years ago, I recovered all the old, OLD Cyburbia Cafe/PAIRC WWWBoard messages I could find, and ran them through a series of converters to get them into the vBulletin-based Cyburbia Fourms database. I then associated all the old posts with users. If the PAIRC member had a Cyburbia Forums account, I ran a MySQL query to associate the post with the current Cyburbian. Sometimes, I would change the registration date so it matched the time of their first post ever, rather than the time they registered their vBulletin account. If the poster didn't have a Cyburbia Forums-era account, I created a dummy account, and associated any posts made with that name or pseudonym with that account. The idea was to have every post associated with an account.

    Even with all that data mining, I think about half to two thirds of all pre-2001 Cyburbia Cafe/PAIRC posts are lost. Many of those lost posts weren't in English.

    I managed to find Post #1, though.

    Anyhow, in March 1998, I was in Fort Collins processing lot splits at my first post-grad school job. I was driving a 1996 Ford Contour, or Ford Mondeo for those of you from [dieter] more progressive and enlightened countries that are superior in every way to the USA[/dieter]. Pick up an old copy of Planning from around that time, and you'll see my picture in it!
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    Quote Originally posted by Dan View post
    Long story: before the Cyburbia Forums (which uses vBulletin), there was the Cyburbia Cafe (which used the WWWBoard and Discus scripts). Before the Cyburbia Cafe, there was PAIRC. Several years ago, I recovered all the old, OLD Cyburbia Cafe/PAIRC WWWBoard messages I could find, and ran them through a series of converters to get them into the vBulletin-based Cyburbia Fourms database. I then associated all the old posts with users. If the PAIRC member had a Cyburbia Forums account, I ran a MySQL query to associate the post with the current Cyburbian. Sometimes, I would change the registration date so it matched the time of their first post ever, rather than the time they registered their vBulletin account. If the poster didn't have a Cyburbia Forums-era account, I created a dummy account, and associated any posts made with that name or pseudonym with that account. The idea was to have every post associated with an account.

    Even with all that data mining, I think about half to two thirds of all pre-2001 Cyburbia Cafe/PAIRC posts are lost. Many of those lost posts weren't in English.

    I managed to find Post #1, though.

    Anyhow, in March 1998, I was in Fort Collins processing lot splits at my first post-grad school job. I was driving a 1996 Ford Contour, or Ford Mondeo for those of you from [dieter] more progressive and enlightened countries that are superior in every way to the USA[/dieter]. Pick up an old copy of Planning from around that time, and you'll see my picture in it!
    Dan, I want you to know that when I looked at that First Cyburbia Post Ever, I bowed my head and put two fingers on the screen, showing due deference and humility before the great moment of creation.
    " It doesn't take all kinds.....that's a lie the weirdos started." - Madam President

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    Quote Originally posted by ursus View post
    Dan, I want you to know that when I looked at that First Cyburbia Post Ever, I bowed my head and put two fingers on the screen, showing due deference and humility before the great moment of creation.
    totally - the early beginnings of the pilgrims

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    Quote Originally posted by luckless pedestrian View post
    totally - the early beginnings of the pilgrims
    .. and by pilgrims you mean total slackers

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    Quote Originally posted by luckless pedestrian View post
    totally - the early beginnings of the pilgrims
    I intend to do it each time I sign on. I'm not a weirdo or anything...wait, yes I am.
    " It doesn't take all kinds.....that's a lie the weirdos started." - Madam President

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    Quote Originally posted by ursus View post
    I intend to do it each time I sign on. I'm not a weirdo or anything...wait, yes I am.
    So by going back to the thread title question - your are definitely not elitist suburbanites - what ever that means.
    Oddball
    Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
    Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
    Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
    From Kelly's Heroes (1970)


    Are you sure you're not hurt ?
    No. Just some parts wake up faster than others.
    Broke parts take a little longer, though.
    From Electric Horseman (1979)

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    15 years??? Even a bankruptcy will only stay on your credit report for 7 years. Actually it's kind of scary to think that some random thought I type on here could be visible forever and ever. But that's the Internet, I guess.

    In 1998, we had just gotten the Internet at home. And we were the first ones that we knew to have it. None of my friends had it, none of my parents' friends had it, none of my relatives had it. And I'm sure it was 28k (well, it might have been 56k - either way, it was slow as molasses by today's standards). We were the only ones I know who had the Internet.

    Those urban neighborhoods the OP described where convenience store owners are held up at gunpoint on a regular basis may very well have been filled with crack houses and liquor stores in '98, but they're probably overflowing with hipsters and fair trade coffee shops today - complete with bike lanes and community gardens, of course.

    And as for me? Well I was in the 5th grade when this thread started. I guess illinoisplanner and I are the same age (I'm 26).

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