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    Cyburbian ssc's avatar
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    Would you be responsible for these projects?

    I would really like thoughts from municipal planners out there. I am supposed to be reworking my entire department and am having trouble figuring out who should be responsible for certain specific types of projects. So, in your municipality, who....

    .... would apply for/adminster a grant to expand the library?
    .... would apply for/administer a grant to build a new road?
    .... would oversee a "buy a brick" campaign for a new park?
    .... would coordinate flower baskets or banners in a downtown shopping area?
    .... would work with a non-profit to plant street trees?

    I think that is all for now. Any thoughts at all would be greatly appreciated!

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    We would have a neighborhood coordinator do those types of things.

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    Quote Originally posted by ssc
    I would really like thoughts from municipal planners out there. I am supposed to be reworking my entire department and am having trouble figuring out who should be responsible for certain specific types of projects. So, in your municipality, who....

    .... would apply for/adminster a grant to expand the library?
    .... would apply for/administer a grant to build a new road?
    .... would oversee a "buy a brick" campaign for a new park?
    .... would coordinate flower baskets or banners in a downtown shopping area?
    .... would work with a non-profit to plant street trees?

    I think that is all for now. Any thoughts at all would be greatly appreciated!
    First two: we have a central grants coordinator and consultant who would do that with input from the relevant department staff.

    The last 3 wouldn't stand a prayer in this county (liability, hassle etc.)

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    Library: Library Director
    Road: DPW Director or Economic Development Director
    Buy a Brick: Parks Director (or Chamber of Commerce)
    Flower Baskets: Parks Director or DPW Director
    Street Trees: Parks Director or DPW Director
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    Thanks! As I had suspected those are not things that normally fall under "planning". Now to convince the mayor of this....

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    Quote Originally posted by ssc
    .... would apply for/adminster a grant to expand the library?
    Library Director & Administrative Services Director (Town Manager's Office)
    .... would apply for/administer a grant to build a new road?
    Public Works Director
    .... would oversee a "buy a brick" campaign for a new park?
    Heritage Commission & Recreation Coordinator
    .... would coordinate flower baskets or banners in a downtown shopping area?
    Beautify Londonderry (Local citizen's group)
    .... would work with a non-profit to plant street trees?
    Public Works Dept.
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    Library: Agree w/ Cardinal & NHPlanner - Library Director
    Road: MPO ?
    Buy a Brick: Friends of ____ (Foundation group)
    Flower Baskets: City Beautiful (Citizen's group)
    Banners: C of C
    Street Trees: Urban Forestry Dept.
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    . would apply for/adminster a grant to expand the library?
    .... would apply for/administer a grant to build a new road?
    .... would oversee a "buy a brick" campaign for a new park?
    .... would coordinate flower baskets or banners in a downtown shopping area?
    .... would work with a non-profit to plant street trees?
    okay, the town I worked in 2 towns ago had a large planning department for its populations - so I personally worked on on all these noted projects - but they were coordinated with the person that NH Planner posted, the Library Director, Public Works, etc. - the only red flag would be the buy a brick since we aren't supposed to solicit directly in our work and that's a tough one to skate around

    If you are a one-person operation or your department is over-extended already, I would try to get out of doing these and instead "lend support" to the effort in an arms length manner so you are still a team player without working an 80 hour week or burning out your department

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    Quote Originally posted by ssc
    ...would apply for/adminster a grant to expand the library?
    The county library.

    Quote Originally posted by ssc
    ...would apply for/administer a grant to build a new road?
    If it were CDBG/CDAG funds: the community development department.
    If it were SAFETEA-LU funds: the MPO/transportation planning staff.

    Quote Originally posted by ssc
    ...would oversee a "buy a brick" campaign for a new park?
    The parks and recreation department.

    Quote Originally posted by ssc
    ...would coordinate flower baskets or banners in a downtown shopping area?
    The downtown services division of the parks and recreation department or the non-profit downtown board of trade.

    Quote Originally posted by ssc
    ...would work with a non-profit to plant street trees?
    The urban forestry division of the parks and recreation department.

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    I think you are jumping to a quick conclusion based on wishful thinking!

    I have done all, or something closely resembling all, of the above at various jobs in the past, and do many of them now, plus more.

    In my present position we would not get involved with the library grant proposal, but we do write all sorts of transportation grant proposals, and trails are our responsibility. We work cooperatively with Public Works, of course, but we play a major role.

    We haven't done a "buy a brick" promotion here (other places, yes), but we coordinate volunteer efforts on trails and stream restoration. The staff and planning commission advocate creation of not-for-profit "Friends of Williston" foundation to address some of these needs, but if that happens, we will be assigned to do all the paperwork. Public Works coordinates the flowerr plantings.

    We do the urban forestry here, coordinating with Public Works and contract arborists. Planning also functions as the conservation agency, coordinating grants, acquisition, monitoring, and management with help from Public Works and at times, the regional parks agency. Planning also functions as the stormwater agency. Public Works does the maintenance and heavy lifting, but we do all the grants, contracting, monitoring, etc.

    Its small town goverment, but when you take all this stuff out of planning, you also take out all of the fun!

    If I didn't get outside and walk the trails or check stormwater outfalls, etc., etc., I might commit mayhem on some of our less spiffy developers. And I will tell you this for sure: a planning department will get more good press for setting up one volunteer tree planting than for all of the development review it does all year! IMO, if you have these functions now and get rid of them, the new planning director will try to get them back.

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    .... would apply for/adminster a grant to expand the library?
    The director of the library.

    .... would apply for/administer a grant to build a new road?
    This actually could be Planning - but in conjunction with DPW

    .... would oversee a "buy a brick" campaign for a new park?
    Again, could be planning, as it is a new park, but in conjuntion with the Park Dept

    .... would coordinate flower baskets or banners in a downtown shopping area?
    Planning or Chamber of Commerce

    .... would work with a non-profit to plant street trees?
    Planning or Chamber

    Our comptroller is dying to get a grantwriter position approved.

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    I think in general if it is a smaller jurisdiction you might find a planner or planners dealing with or at least helping with all of those. In a larger jurisdiction I don't think planners would typically be doing those sort of things- not to say that they wouldn't - that's just been my general experience.

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