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    "Father" of Planning

    Who do you think was the first to implement planning procedures/techniques?

    I would say Hippodamus.

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    Who 'designed' or planned the first community? My vote is for someone whose name we don't even know. Most cities are located where they are first and foremost for economic reasons, but once economic activities have been established - say farming or any other activity involving specialization of labor, someone had to figure out how to defend the people from the marauders who sought to rob the farmers of their crops - ergo the centralization of population centers; a concentration of humans to provide the labor necessary for the construction of defensive walls and the bodies to man them. This would IMO constitute the first implementation of urban planning.
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    Wow, this question is not much different than saying who was the first monkey to align to make a rock sharp so it could cut things.

    Ur, the alleged first oldest/first city in existence under present day Bagdad, shows a phenomenal amount of thought and procedure into its design in relation to the path of the sun at different points during the year.

    I agree with Maister on this one (wow... Stan and Stan agree on something, mark your calendars!)
    "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom. Time makes more converts than reason." - Thomas Paine Common Sense.

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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    Wow, this question is not much different than saying who was the first monkey to align to make a rock sharp so it could cut things.
    Haha... thats hilarious. Yeah, I guess the question is what it sounds like.

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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
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    Ur, the alleged first oldest/first city in existence under present day Bagdad...
    Off-topic:
    I agree, it may have been the first permanently inhabited city (that is, more than seasonally), but not under present "Baghdad."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur

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    I think to qualify as the father of urban planning, you need to have provided some sort of permanent foundation for the practice. Vitruvius is aknowledged as one of the fathers of architecture because his text is still read today.

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    Quote Originally posted by RichmondJake View post
    Off-topic:
    I agree, it may have been the first permanently inhabited city (that is, more than seasonally), but not under present "Baghdad."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur
    Thanks for the clarification... I don't know why I thought it was Baghdad...
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    What if it was a "mother?"

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    Quote Originally posted by Lee Nellis View post
    What if it was a "mother?"
    Hmm... perhaps. But at that time, man dominated. I doubt that; or maybe a woman influenced man with certain ideas and designs.

    Very good question though.
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