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Poll results: Is Breastfeeding In Public OK?

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  • I am female; Breastfeeding should be a purely private activity.

    0 0%
  • I am female; Breastfeeding is ok in a few public places.

    1 1.43%
  • I am female; Breastfeeding should be allowed in most public places.

    9 12.86%
  • I am female; A woman should have the right to breastfeed wherever she wants (except foodservice).

    12 17.14%
  • I am male; Breastfeeding should be a purely private activity.

    5 7.14%
  • I am male; Breastfeeding is ok in a few public places.

    5 7.14%
  • I am male; Breastfeeding should be allowed in most public places.

    12 17.14%
  • I am male; A woman should have the right to breastfeed wherever she wants (except foodservice).

    26 37.14%
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    Cyburbian dobopoq's avatar
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    Is Breastfeeding In Public OK?

    Just spotted this article: http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/27/nur....ap/index.html on CNN about the latest issue of babytalk magazine. There's an emerging debate between "lactivists" and those who believe breastfeeding should remain a private matter. Here are a few quotes from the article.
    One mother who didn't like the cover explains she was concerned about her 13-year-old son seeing it.

    "I shredded it," said Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas, in a telephone interview. "A breast is a breast -- it's a sexual thing. He didn't need to see that."
    "It's not like women are whipping them out with tassels on them," she added. "Mostly, they are trying to be discreet."
    The evidence of public discomfort isn't just anecdotal. In a survey published in 2004 by the American Dietetic Association, less than half -- 43 percent -- of 3,719 respondents said women should have the right to breast-feed in public places.
    "My kid needed to eat," said the 29-year-old from South Abingdon, Massachusetts. And she wasn't going to go hide in a not-so-clean restroom: "I don't send people to the bathroom when they want to eat," she said.
    As this very much has to do with gender issues - it should come as no surprise that it would be on my radar. But I wonder - What do cyburbians think and feel about the issue? Care to share some experiences?
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    My wife's 93 year old grandfather was recently telling us about how in the 'olden days' the local theater used to reserve the upper level seating for nursing mothers.
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    If it keeps then rugrats from crying, crabbing, or making scene because they are hungry... then by all means feed that kid!

    Actually this is a natural function of rasing children. There is nothing sexual about using the mammory gland in this manner and therefore I see nothing wrong with it.

    Of course, I am of the school that is against censorship of any manner, and those neo-Puritans can like it or lump it.
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    jk -

    yes, breastfeeding in public should not a big deal and if malls and such don't want it, then they should provide a "lounge" that is separate or at least attached to the bthroom - remember old fashioned department stores had the mirrored room with couches and comfy chairs that you went through to get to the bathroom? they should do that

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    it is a natural thing. like the one woman said, breasts are not just sexual objects. they provide a very important function for babies.

    if people are so uptight that they can't handle a mother doing what a mother is supposed to do, then they've got some issues.



    re: the poll
    i voted for breastfeeding should be allowed anywhere.

    re: (except foodservice) do you mean women serving food shouldn't be allowed to breastfeed as they wait on tables? or that women shouldn't be allowed to breastfeed in a restaurant as a patron?
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    I personally would not breastfeed in a public place but do not find anything wrong with it and am not offended seeing a mother breastfeeding in public.

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    I have no problem with it. My favorite newborn tee shirt "I eat at moms"

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    I'm a big time advocate of breastfeeding. At one time I contemplating becoming a doula, for all the right reasons.
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    Where ever, and when ever. It's about the nourishment of a child.
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    Florida passed a law several years ago giving women the right to breast-feed in public; this followed newspaper stories about several moms being asked to leave malls and restaurants because they were breast-feeding.

    I think it should be permitted anywhere. I mean, women can't stay at home all day in case their baby gets hungry! But... women should be discreet. We were at a spring training game this year and there was a woman sitting on the floor in a very crowded corridor breast-feeding with her whole boob hanging out (I would have never done that!). I can see where this would bug other parents whose kids see it. Most moms will at least wear a nursing garment that minimizes the view, or drape a cloth over their shoulder, so you'd hardly notice.

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    There is nothing obscene or sexual about breastfeading so it shouldn't be prohibited or restricted. However, if I were a nursing mother, I would use discretion about when and where to feed my child.
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    I actually had a woman bring her kids to a job interview... then the youngest, about 4 or 5, hopped up on her lap, lifted her shirt, and went to town!

    Must have been the oddest interview I've ever done!
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    I have no hangups on that, it is what they were designed for, after all.

    To expand on this, I do think that some 'merrcins in positions of power are a wee bit too much in a knot on the whole topic of nudity, etc, and I firmly believe that the Europeans do have the right attitude towards the subject.

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    Quote Originally posted by mgk920
    I have no hangups on that, it is what they were designed for, after all.

    To expand on this, I do think that some 'merrcins in positions of power are a wee bit too much in a knot on the whole topic of nudity, etc, and I firmly believe that the Europeans do have the right attitude towards the subject.

    Mike
    Well I have some body parts that were designed for specific things but I don't expose that in public other than in designated locations... often.

    I don't have a problem with it in most cases, however some places breast feeding is inappropriate, including restaurants.
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    Vermont has a law stating that a women may breastfeed in any place she otherwise has a right to be.

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    Quote Originally posted by Zoning Goddess
    ... We were at a spring training game this year and there was a woman sitting on the floor in a very crowded corridor breast-feeding ...
    Baseball and breastfeeding, my two favorite pastimes. Both should be allowed anywhere.
    Annoyingly insensitive

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    There are two visions of breasts in this country, that's for sure. I'm all for breastfeeding in public. But it's the breast portrayal in the second image that I am sure impedes the case for widespread societal acceptance of public breastfeeding. Though I do wonder why CNN didn't run an article about the angry women who write laddie mags about those sexual explicit covers. Maybe the media's milking this one magazine cover for all it can?

    Breastfeeding Cover

    Seductive Laddie Mag

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    I think that as with the built environment, we have overzoned much of human behavior. I am all for breastfeeding. I admit I enjoy seeing it when I have the opportunity. To place restrictions on breastfeeding would over-domesticize (it's a word ) women and child care, which is the last thing we need IMO.

    What is the cut-off age? Wouldn't no restrictions make it ok for a man to suck a woman's breasts in public? What's wrong with that?
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis
    Well I have some body parts that were designed for specific things but I don't expose that in public other than in designated locations... often.

    I don't have a problem with it in most cases, however some places breast feeding is inappropriate, including restaurants.
    Just curious why do you think it is inappropriate to breastfeed in a restaurant? I personally don't have a problem with it anywhere, just as long as they are discreet. I would have a problem if their boobies were just hanging out. (I couldn't resist saying boobie!!)).

    For me, I was never comfortable doing it in public, but I had a tough time with it anyway which made the situation worse.

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    Yup

    Quote Originally posted by NHPlanner
    Where ever, and when ever. It's about the nourishment of a child.
    What he said...... Never had a problem with it and never will......I wonder about people that have a problem with it....
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    Quote Originally posted by SW MI Planner
    Just curious why do you think it is inappropriate to breastfeed in a restaurant? I personally don't have a problem with it anywhere, just as long as they are discreet. I would have a problem if their boobies were just hanging out. (I couldn't resist saying boobie!!)).

    For me, I was never comfortable doing it in public, but I had a tough time with it anyway which made the situation worse.
    One caveat to this is: What happens to the infamous, "Shirt and shoes required" sign in fast food restaurants under this scenario?

    I think women should be able to go shirtless anywhere a man is allowed to. Perhaps breastfeeding should overrule the "shirt and shoes" thing, but then wouldn't that be discrimination against men?

    Why do we allow women to show lots of cleavage and neck - everything except the nipple, while men can go shirtless, except at work where they are not even allowed to show their necks? [You know dobopoq would have to work in a connection to neckties. ]
    But seriously though - Doesn't it seem kinda hypocritical and inconsistent? I mean sure, women can't exactly wear bikini tops in most lines of work, but they can often show some cleavage. So why the double standard toward men - either total freedom (out of work) or total restriction (in the office). It is a needless dichotomy.
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    Ok this begs a question I have pondered for some time

    Just how old for a child to stop breast feeding? Matiffs woman with a kindergarden aged kid just seemed so wrong to me. Yup I am childless and most of my friends are non breeders

    Parents and non parents just how old is old enough to say no more?
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    Quote Originally posted by dobopoq
    One caveat to this is: What happens to the infamous, "Shirt and shoes required" sign in fast food restaurants under this scenario?
    Dude, 98% of them are wearing shirts! Most are also quite discreet and you wouldn't even know they were nursing.

    Quote Originally posted by Planner Girl
    Just how old for a child to stop breast feeding? Matiffs woman with a kindergarden aged kid just seemed so wrong to me. Yup I am childless and most of my friends are non breeders

    Parents and non parents just how old is old enough to say no more?
    For me personally, when they are old enough to ask for it verbally, they are too old. But that is just my personal opinion.

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    Interesting that the majority of babytalk magazine were offended by it.

    Some people are just way too uptight.

    so yes- breastfeeding whenever wherever is fine by me - but then again I don't really get offended very easily.

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    Quote Originally posted by PlannerGirl
    Parents and non parents just how old is old enough to say no more?
    There was a NYT magazine article from a couple years ago about a woman who continued to let her 9-year old son breastfeed. Kind of weird, but just think, she didn't have to take birth control.

    Check this blog out (SWMiPlanner will like it because it's titled "boobie juice"!):

    The other day I thought it ironic that in the middle of a casino that had an enormous billboard of a lady's butt on the front (and was right next door to the "Hooters" casino) I had people staring at me for sitting in a bench inside the ladies restroom feeding my baby.

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