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    MAP (Michigan) conference and laefest thread

    Who is all going to the Michigan Association of Planning Conference in Detroit October 11-4th? http://www.planningmi.org/conference.asp

    Anyone want to have a laefest or will I be drinking alone? Just kidding, I may have one or two cocktails, but I am going purely for educational purposes....

    I will be there Wed - Sat morning, already have hotel booked baby! Probably not doing any of the mobile workshops, but maybe we can have a local (hint hint Detroit Planner) give us a great tour

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    Educational purposes?? Do you need to brush up on your poker skills?

    Although I have not yet dertermined whether or not I will attend this conference, if I am around I might be able to get a van from one of my brother's dealerships. He may make us stop places and hand out business cards while wearing chicken suits....

    I work about 2 blocks from the RenCen so if things are not too busy I should be able to slip away; I also have parking, so if the tour is more extensive I can do that easily.

    Please be booked at somewhere else than the Ramada/Leland House or the Sheraton/Pontchatrain. The Leland House is notoriously bad. The Pontch is undergoing a major renovation and is nowhere near done, you may be stuck in a crappy room there as well.

    Best bets are the following:
    - Marriot at Ren Cen
    - Marriot Courtyard
    - Hilton in Harmonie Park
    - Holiday Inn Express
    - Antheneum (Big Bucks but wonderful rooms and in Greektown)

    Further Out:
    - Inn at Ferry Street (Several Old Mansions turned into a 40 room B & B)
    - River Place Inn (In the Stroh's Development in a historic building riverside)
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    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    Educational purposes?? Do you need to brush up on your poker skills?
    No, my euchre skills

    I am booked at the Ren Cen - that is where they are having the conference, and the rate is $109/night.

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    hmm Don't think any of the casinos offer Euchre!

    Ren Cen is pretty swank these days. Its no longer the death star it once was. You can now walk for miles along the riverfont walkways, and it is linked directly to the people mover.
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    No funding for me (or Maister) to attend.
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    I might have to pay oout of my own pocket if I attend as well, but the networking opportunities are well worth it. I just don't know what my workload is going to be like.
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    Alas, I am using my training funds this year to get certified by the National Charrette Institute, and I am forced to travel to Portland in early November (sniff, sniff). Maybe I can get talked into doing a Citizen Planner session, then I might get to spend a day over there. A tour by DP would be a highlight, for sure.
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    OK, now I'm going after all. As such, there must be a Cyburbia laefest of some sort, even if it's only me and SWMiPlanner quaffing Tall Toads on the RenCen Skydeck. So, Cyburbian Michiganders - coming to Detroit in October? Perhaps we will all be there, huddled around sports bar TVs watching the Tigers in the post season? Cruising the hospitality rooms? C'mon, where's your fighting spirit! Hope to see many fun folks at Cyburbia Laefest SE Michigan 2006!
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    But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate
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    Is also great
    And would suffice.

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    Quote Originally posted by DecaturHawk View post
    OK, now I'm going after all. As such, there must be a Cyburbia laefest of some sort, even if it's only me and SWMiPlanner quaffing Tall Toads on the RenCen Skydeck.
    I wonder where the poor will be drinking?

    Check out the virtual bar tour!
    http://mattprenticerg.com/urc/coach.asp
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    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    I wonder where the poor will be drinking?

    Check out the virtual bar tour!
    http://mattprenticerg.com/urc/coach.asp
    Um, I am poor, so any referrals would be awesome! Where can I go (at night after my long day of education of course!) for dinner, drinks, and some fun?

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    Quote Originally posted by SW MI Planner View post
    Um, I am poor, so any referrals would be awesome! Where can I go (at night after my long day of education of course!) for dinner, drinks, and some fun?
    Bargain of the century: Presto is located in RenCen and is the lunch counter for Andiamo's Riverfront Bistro. This is where you go to get good food at lunch, in addition there is a Potbelly's and a food court in the building for other low priced options.

    Cheap dinner and drinks? Best try greektown. My favorites are New Hellas and Golden Fleece. These places have been around forever and look like it. I've had a pretty good meal a Chris Chelios' Chili bar by getting a small salad and a bowl of chicken chili.

    Further out adventures will get you much cheaper prices. Trips to Hamtramck, Arabian Village (E Dearborn), Buddy's, or Mexicantown will give you multiple options for good prices on food and drink. Two drawbacks are someone will have to drive, and that person should know the area as some of these areas are kind of rough.

    If you have a passport or bring a birth certificate, you should be able to get into Windsor, Ontario, Canada. Erie Street is a neighborhood of recent Italian immigrants and has some great spots for dinner or just coffee. Windsor also has a lively (but young as drinking age is 19) downtown just a short bus ride from the Ren Cen.

    The cost for a beer or coke at the Coach Insignia is only moderately more than it would be at a regular bar. It makes a great place to go just for the view alone.

    Entertainment? There are always bands playing at the Casinos.
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    Your advocating for people to leave Detroit to go to Windsor! Shame on you DP! Just kidding! In Denver, somehow we ended up at Duffy's Shamrock bar, and went there seriously every night. It was so fun. I like local types of places where you can get dinner and some cocktails and just hang out. Thanks for the suggestions!

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    I'm not saying you should go to Danny's! Windsor is every bit part of the Detroit Metroplex, heck Detroit shares more things in common with Windsor than it does places like Canton or Novi anyway!
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    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    I wonder where the poor will be drinking?

    Check out the virtual bar tour!
    http://mattprenticerg.com/urc/coach.asp
    Actually, I'm poor, too, so thanks, DP for the advice. Still, I'd like to take in that RenCen view. SWMiPlanner, I'll be lookin' for ya.

    Still no one else planning on it? How's about just driving in for an evening laefest if you aren't planning to go to the conference?
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    But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate
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    And would suffice.

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    I don't need to stinking drive in, I work two blocks away, and live about 5 miles away. The recent MAP had something about day registrations. I might try for one of those. I think this will be one of the better attended Mihcigan Conferences. I don't know about anyone else but my agency is pretty leery of sending us to places like Mackinac Island or Traverse City as they look like junkets. I don't really blame them, I don't want to be on Fox News hall of shame!
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    What is the scoop? I am not attending (too much work), but will be able to free myself for a tour or some other event (how cool is it that the Tiger's might be playing ball?).

    What does the agenda look like in terms of down time? any? any time I can sneak in?
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    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    What is the scoop? I am not attending (too much work), but will be able to free myself for a tour or some other event (how cool is it that the Tiger's might be playing ball?).

    What does the agenda look like in terms of down time? any? any time I can sneak in?
    I know! I would love tickets! I don' t know, what is the scoop? I'll be there Wed thru Sat. Who all will be there, and what days? It looks like they are having a Planners Night Out on Wed at 7:30 at Andrews on the Corner. Shuttle pick up at 9:30 and 10:15, so its not really a night out per se, but a few hours! Anyone going, anyone heard of this joint? Alumni receptions are Thursday night.

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    Well, I will be there, I'm doing Citizen Planner training on Weds afternoon and doing a client meeting on Weds night, but I will definitely be on the lookout for you all, or come down to the exhibit hall and look for our booth and ask for me. Go Tigers!
    SOME say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice.
    From what I’ve tasted of desire
    I hold with those who favor fire.
    But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate
    To know that for destruction ice
    Is also great
    And would suffice.

    Robert Frost (1874–1963) (From Harper’s Magazine, December 1920.)

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    Quote Originally posted by SW MI Planner View post
    It looks like they are having a Planners Night Out on Wed at 7:30 at Andrews on the Corner. Shuttle pick up at 9:30 and 10:15, so its not really a night out per se, but a few hours! Anyone going, anyone heard of this joint? Alumni receptions are Thursday night.
    I won't be (at the conference), but my boss and a modeler will be there. Andrews is a nice old pub in what is left of the Docks/Rivertown area. This area was jumping several years ago until someone decided that all of the casinos should be located along the riverfront, started to buy out businesses, and abandoned the project so that the casinos could be scattered around downtown. Andrews is across the street from a Development that is own by Stroh's beer (even though they no longer are in the beer biz). The development is a collection of hotels, townhomes, offices located in loft-like space in a historic pharmacutical company (one of the many companies that is now gobbled up into Pfiezer). A couple of other restraunts and a Microbrewery remain in that area.

    I used to attend the PNO's regularly, but as of late they have emphasized later starts. Being an un-drinker and having stuff to do after work has been a real conflict for me. I may try to make this one by extending my workout time weds.

    Here is a link to the development, in most of the pics Andrew's is in the lower left corner.
    http://www.smithgroup.com/JJR/JJRPro...sp?pn=470&pt=1
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    Hey DP, ever been to the Old Shillelagh? I thought I would go watch the Tigers there Friday night. I'll stop by and see you DH!

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    Quote Originally posted by SW MI Planner View post
    Hey DP, ever been to the Old Shillelagh? I thought I would go watch the Tigers there Friday night. I'll stop by and see you DH!
    Thats a bit like asking a Catholic Schoolboy if he has ever been to Sunday Mass.

    I dunno how much game watching you can do there, it is cheifly a noisey beer hall with sing-along bands jammed into an upstairs room. Maybe on the lower level you can watch some.
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    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    Thats a bit like asking a Catholic Schoolboy if he has ever been to Sunday Mass.

    I dunno how much game watching you can do there, it is cheifly a noisey beer hall with sing-along bands jammed into an upstairs room. Maybe on the lower level you can watch some.

    Yeah, is it fun?! It sounds like a great place, right up my alley! Is there anyother good Tiger watching bars around? You don't happen to work for the tourism bureau do you? I'm going to have to give you commission! I am so excited to get the hell out of dodge!

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    Quote Originally posted by SW MI Planner View post
    Yeah, is it fun?! It sounds like a great place, right up my alley! Is there anyother good Tiger watching bars around? You don't happen to work for the tourism bureau do you? I'm going to have to give you commission! I am so excited to get the hell out of dodge!
    No, but my sis' best friend did, until he became the VP of the Superbowl. Just about any semi-divey bar would be fine for the game. The ones by Tiger Stadium (Nemo's, Casey's, Hoot's) are the traditional favorites, but the casinos all have TV's in em too.

    In terms of if its fun, if you like to get a few pints under your belt and sing the Pheasant Plucker song, you will like it. What is the Pheasant Plucker song? here is the chorus:

    "I'm not a pheasant plucker, I'm the pheasant plucker's son.
    I'm sitting plucking pheasants till the pheasant plucker comes."
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    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    No, but my sis' best friend did, until he became the VP of the Superbowl. Just about any semi-divey bar would be fine for the game. The ones by Tiger Stadium (Nemo's, Casey's, Hoot's) are the traditional favorites, but the casinos all have TV's in em too.

    In terms of if its fun, if you like to get a few pints under your belt and sing the Pheasant Plucker song, you will like it. What is the Pheasant Plucker song? here is the chorus:

    "I'm not a pheasant plucker, I'm the pheasant plucker's son.
    I'm sitting plucking pheasants till the pheasant plucker comes."
    I can't even do that sober! If you are around DP, look us up!

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