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Poll results: Who Best Personified the Roll of James Bond in Your Opinion?

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  • Sean Connery

    28 70.00%
  • George Lazenby

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  • Roger Moore

    5 12.50%
  • Timothy Dalton

    1 2.50%
  • Pierce Brosnan

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    New James Bond

    Has anyone else heard the negative buzz about Daniel Craig being cast as the new James Bond? The producers decided to ditch Pierce Brosnan and replace him with some short blond haired guy for the role!

    Apparently, there are some Bond fans running around who take this s**t seriously enough that they've actually started a movement to boycott the next 007 film, if you can believe it. http://www.danielcraigisnotbond.com/...no_royale.html

    Returning to the Eternal Question: Who do you think was the greatest Bond and why?

    Naturally, we gotta have a poll to go with.....listed in order are the folks who played james Bond in the movies:
    1. Sean Connery
    2. George Lazenby
    3. Roger Moore
    4. Timothy Dalton
    5. Pierce Brosnan

    ...and who is the best looking Bond (not necessarily the best actor)?
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    It has to be Lazenby.
    I'd be more apathetic if I weren't so lethargic.

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    I vote for Bronson, but just barely over Connery.
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

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    Where's David Niven, from the original Casino Royale???



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    Quote Originally posted by Bubba View post
    Where's David Niven, from the original
    Alas, spoofs don't count. You may also notice I didn't include the original 1954 television Bond either. (didn't know about him didja?)
    http://www.klast.net/bond/cr54.html
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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    Alas, spoofs don't count. You may also notice I didn't include the original 1954 television Bond either. (didn't know about him didja?)
    http://www.klast.net/bond/cr54.html
    Not until about 10 minutes ago when I was searching for the Niven pic...
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    Connery, definitely. Moore was too oldish looking and the younger guys too pretty for the role. Personally, I think Craig will be fine.

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    I think Daniel Craig is a very good actor, and I'm looking forward to seeing the new Bond. I love Connery as Bond, the others (so far) are all just wanna-bes.

    Brosnan is the best looking actor of the bunch, but I never thought of Bond as being classically good looking. I thought he was supposed to be handsome, with a hard edge. An air of danger, the secret thrill of fear, an aura of self knowledge - those are what attracts the women, not smooth, model-looks and a twinkle in his eye.

    I'll be seeing Casino Royale in the theaters, but maybe not on opening weekend.
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    Sean Connery will always be the James Bond as far as I am concerned. The primary reason is that his Bond was the most dangerous and most edgy. Some of the other Bonds were pretty and elegant (Brosnan, Lazenby and Moore), but didn't seem like killers (you have to be a killer to get the OO designation!)

    Connery's Bond could bed the beautiful Russian spy, then later kill her when the Bond loving didn't turn her to his side. The others didn't seem up to the task. Connery's Bond was a bad ass. Timothy Dalton's Bond was almost a bad ass.

    Connery also looks a little sinister as Bond.

    Two of the other Bonds, at least to me, seemed more likely to ask the Bond girl if maybe she had a nice brother who liked show tunes and shopping for antiques.
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    I grew up in the Moore era, so I'm most familiar with his movies. Hands down, Brosnan is the best-looking Bond, although I think Dalton has more "edge" appeal. This Craig dude looks like a dud.
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    I recall watching the Beverly Hillbillies episode in which Jethro announced this intention to become a "double-naught spy."
    I think he would have been good in the role.

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    It is interesting to note that the Bond of the novels was not really the "dashingly good looks - could be a movie star - sexiest man alive" type that the Bonds of the movies has been. He was described as handsome, but not the international playboy superstar that the movie actors have been. By appearance, the Bond of the novels would have seemed much more ordinary.

    With Casino Royale, the franchise is being reset, like the latest Batman movie did, starting the series over with the re-origin of the main character. Casino Royale was the first Bond novel back in the early 50's and definitely low tech. Bond's high tech gadgets would come later. So, this Bond may be closer to the novels than the previous "movie star" Bond's we've seen.

    Dan Craig may be just the kind of actor needed to play this new - back to the original Bond
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    Connery! I still think he is hot for an old guy.
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    Connery is the only Bond but a respectable second is Bronson. Too bad for Pierce that the last 2 bond movies were awful. I was hoping that the Bond franchise would end instead of finding another Bond.
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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    Sean Connery will always be the James Bond as far as I am concerned. The primary reason is that his Bond was the most dangerous and most edgy. Some of the other Bonds were pretty and elegant (Brosnan, Lazenby and Moore), but didn't seem like killers (you have to be a killer to get the OO designation!)

    Connery's Bond could bed the beautiful Russian spy, then later kill her when the Bond loving didn't turn her to his side. The others didn't seem up to the task. Connery's Bond was a bad ass. Timothy Dalton's Bond was almost a bad ass.

    Connery also looks a little sinister as Bond.

    Two of the other Bonds, at least to me, seemed more likely to ask the Bond girl if maybe she had a nice brother who liked show tunes and shopping for antiques.
    A point not lost on the readers of the original novels by Ian Fleming. In the books, Fleming described Bond first and foremost as an asassin with a military commando background. The whole suave, debonaire and refined gentleman well-versed in the art of picking the perfect wine to accompany a gourmet meal was pretty much devised for the screen Bond. Personally, I think Dalton probably portrayed the whole ruthlessness thing the best (but unfortunately had other deficiencies as a Bond overall). James Bond was not a 'nice' man.
    Quote Originally posted by Salmissra
    Brosnan is the best looking actor of the bunch, but I never thought of Bond as being classically good looking. I thought he was supposed to be handsome, with a hard edge. An air of danger, the secret thrill of fear, an aura of self knowledge - those are what attracts the women, not smooth, model-looks and a twinkle in his eye.
    My recollection was that Fleming described Bond as having rugged good looks that attracted women. He was not a particularly large man, possessed pleasant facial features, but his body was covered with numerous scars.
    Concerning Bond and the ladies, I recall an interesting interview with Pierce Brosnan where he said he would love to have been able to portray Bond's character in the most psychologically accurate (i.e. screwed up) manner possible - for example, think about everything that happens to all the women he ever hung around including his own (brief) wife. He would eventually come to posess an incredibly jaded/callous attitude towards women - little more than playthings - certainly nothing to invest anything emotionally into. But Brosnan conceded neither the audiences nor the producers would ever want/allow Bond to be played that way.

    Edit - sorry didn't see Joe lliff's post...
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    Quote Originally posted by kjelsadek View post
    Connery! I still think he is hot for an old guy.
    word.

    but i will agree bronsnan is the most classically attractive Bond.

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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    Concerning Bond and the ladies, I recall an interesting interview with Pierce Brosnan where he said he would love to have been able to portray Bond's character in the most psychologically accurate (i.e. screwed up) manner possible - for example, think about everything that happens to all the women he ever hung around including his own (brief) wife. He would eventually come to posess an incredibly jaded/callous attitude towards women - little more than playthings - certainly nothing to invest anything emotionally into. But Brosnan conceded neither the audiences nor the producers would ever want/allow Bond to be played that way.
    That would be like making a Superman movie where Superman breaks down from the emotional strain of saving the world over and over.

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    Sean Connery. Pierce Brosnan would be #2. Never liked Roger Moore in the role.

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    Chronologically, my analysis is:

    Connery - Good combo of charm, sex appeal, and toughness. Was always patriarchal and domineering toward females.
    Lazenby - Good looks; most physically fit; cunning, tough and charming; but his Australian accent was a bit hard to place, and his voice quality itself was inferior to the others; too plastic in his features to be believable and a somewhat wooden performance.
    Moore - Humorous and sophisticated but not really believable as a tough guy. His tenure witnessed female characters who were increasingly independent.
    Dalton - Lean toughness, sophisticated, ruthless yet also sensitive and emotionally vulnerable, serious, believable, but at the cost of some humor. He was the least womanizing of the bunch (perhaps in part a reflection of AIDS awareness). But still a bit overprotective of women.
    Brosnan - The most emotionally complex. He combined the intensity of Connery and Dalton, with the humor of Moore, with plenty of sophistication. Overall, the most well rounded Bond, but also not the best in any major category. Although he does plenty of womanizing, I would say his was the first Bond (so far) to be played with a modern non-patriarchal attitude toward women.

    Conclusion: Dalton's hard-edged emotional intensity combined with the (relative) realism of the plots of his two outings make his the best bond so far IMO. But I think they all have unique appeal and none is all that much better than the others.
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    Ever since the first few movies they have all been spoofs. How serious can you take Ms. Pussy Galore? Hopefully the new moive will get back to the original flavor.

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    I think Daniel Craig will be great as the new Bond

    Watch his so-called "Bond Audition" movie - Layer Cake - and tell me he couldn't pull it off...

    And the ability to portray humour in a movie as dark as Munich showed he can pull off the charismatic, charming side of the Bond character..

    Watch both of those, and you'll realize that while their choice of him for the role was indeed outside of 'type', but is very interesting, and shoudl work well.

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    Quote Originally posted by Salmissra View post
    I think Daniel Craig is a very good actor, and I'm looking forward to seeing the new Bond. I love Connery as Bond, the others (so far) are all just wanna-bes.

    Brosnan is the best looking actor of the bunch, but I never thought of Bond as being classically good looking. I thought he was supposed to be handsome, with a hard edge. An air of danger, the secret thrill of fear, an aura of self knowledge - those are what attracts the women, not smooth, model-looks and a twinkle in his eye.

    I'll be seeing Casino Royale in the theaters, but maybe not on opening weekend.
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    Well i havent really ever sat down specifically to watch a Bond movie, but i do have to say Connery (in his day) and Brosman are all pleasant to the eye.

    The new guy Daniel Craig has something about his look, that may interest me- the blonder hair and blue eyes me thinks
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    Quote Originally posted by dobopoq View post
    Chronologically, my analysis is:<snip>
    This is pretty much my analysis as well. I grew up in the Moore era and he was always Bond to me until my adult years when I watched the entire series.

    Just watching the movies without any background, I never cared for the Dalton movies. But learning he wanted to play the role closer to the real character, I've found new respect for them.

    The Brosnan movies are more action movies with less character development. I guess that goes with the era they were made. And watching the Moore movies in comparison to the others, I would now say they are my least favorite. They are to "cartoony" very Pink Pantherish, probably also doing with the time period in which they were made.

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    Good analysis, dobopoq!

    I will always be a Sean Connery fan, and enjoy much of his work. I always come back to the scene in "Dr. No" when he's waiting in the hotel room for the crooked professor to arrive. When he doesn't get the answers he's looking for he calmly shoots the man, then casually removes the silencer from the handgun. It's one of the few explicit indications that he's a man working on a short fuse and he doesn't like to mess around. Moore could do the same scene but I don't think you'd see the rage as clearly in his body language. (Still a head- scratcher for casting Connery as a Spaniard who trains a Scotsman in the original Highlander movie but that's a discussion for another day)

    I do think that Dalton was the best of them all in terms of the ruthlessness factor; my main objection to him was that he didn't give off that sense of effortlessness when it came to 'doing the pretty'. He was great at the grubby, rough up the bad guys stuff.

    I think I may have mentioned this a while back in another thread, but my pick for the next Bond should have been Colin Salmon. Alas, he was wasted as M's assistant in the last couple of movies, thus taking him out of the running. He has that quality of smoothness, the ability to go from pleasant to predator in a heartbeat. Oh, and he looks like a dreamboat in formal wear

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