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    Cyburbian hilldweller's avatar
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    My Filthy Congressional Representative

    Now that all the lurid details have come out, it appears that my local congressman, Republican Mark Foley (who lives only a few miles away from me btw) sent lurid sexual emails to young boys working in the halls of congress. Some have charged that the House Speaker and other congressional Republicans had knowledge of Foley's behavior and looked the other way. For Republicans in Washington it is just the latest, but perhaps the most damaging in a string of scandals. The question is whether this scandal will hurt republican candidates across the board. How do you rate it among other issues and scandals including a catastrophic war and the Abramoff scandal?

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    Actually I rate it pretty low on the outrage scale. He's single, he drinks too much and lusts after young men, he holds a position of power and influence.. What else is new on capital hill!

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    Its horrible and the man needs to spend many years behind some steel bars if all this shakes out to be as bad as the news is reporting. It upsets me more that the Congressional leadership seems to have turned a blind eye to the problem for a long time.

    I just wish folks would stop talking about his being gay and leaving folks to tie in their minds his intrest in teenaged boys to being gay. That is such BS
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    Still i should be outraged.

    But I thought his lawyer spolesperson said he was gay, and an alcoholic. Is he a single het with pedophiliac tendencies that run to young and younger boys and perhaps a porn cache as well?

    i dont know but is that how bad this story is getting? Not to mention the senatorial coverup

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    But is he a catholic?

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    Quote Originally posted by jaws View post
    But is he a catholic?
    That would be the small "c" catholic, meaning universal? Or a typo implying Roman Catholic? Either way, I find the post insulting and trollish.

    Otherwise, this whole mess has me inclined to vote against every single incumbent in every office up for re-election.

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    Quote Originally posted by Gedunker View post
    That would be the small "c" catholic, meaning universal? Or a typo implying Roman Catholic? Either way, I find the post insulting and trollish.

    Otherwise, this whole mess has me inclined to vote against every single incumbent in every office up for re-election.
    A good catholic can take a joke.

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    I'm Catholic, I thought Jaws post was really kind of funny especially since the Catholic Church has been pushing the Right for so many years now they seem to have forgot about stuff like forgiveness and acceptance.

    Who knows stuff like this may even get some of my older relatives to embrace the democratic party again.
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    Quote Originally posted by hilldweller View post
    For Republicans in Washington it is just the latest, but perhaps the most damaging in a string of scandals. The question is whether this scandal will hurt republican candidates across the board.
    The whole Foley mess will probably hurt the overall chances of the GOP hanging onto control of Congress, but it will have zero effect on my vote, and I very seriously doubt that it will effect the congressional race in my district. The rep from my district - a Republican - is well liked here, does a good job of representing his constituents, and he isn't senior enough to be in the Congressional leadership. I can't imagine how this particular scandal (or Abramoff) could have any negative effect on his chances of reelection.
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    Quote Originally posted by Super Amputee Cat View post
    I just hope Hastert goes down.
    This stuff plays a lot like whack-a-mole.

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    The irony is, of course, is that he is Catholic

    (and so am I, so I winced when I heard that, thanks alot, a$$hole Foley)

    but the true irony is that for this party to say they are the party of morals and virtue for the last decade, it's all such a farce - humanity is humanity - deviant behavior runs across party lines as well as religious orders and I'm sick of hearing any organized group holding themselves higher up than anyone else

    the whole glass houses cliche thingy - it's all there

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    Quote Originally posted by luckless pedestrian View post
    but the true irony is that for this party to say they are the party of morals and virtue for the last decade, it's all such a farce - humanity is humanity - deviant behavior runs across party lines as well as religious orders and I'm sick of hearing any organized group holding themselves higher up than anyone else

    the whole glass houses cliche thingy - it's all there
    I agree completely. are there any elected officials who do not become corrupt in some manner as they gain power? Why can't people just stick to the "do unto others" mantra.

    How about the members from a christian church who were going to protest the funerals of the murdered amish girls because of what they thought was immoral behavior by the governement of Pennsylvania? That sounds like a christian way to behave, protest the funerals of children because they are related to the government how? These people are right up there on this list of people who just don't get it.

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    Quote Originally posted by jaws View post
    A good catholic can take a joke.
    I'm neither a good catholic nor a bad catholic and I don't find anything humorous about child molestation.

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    Quote Originally posted by cololi View post
    I agree completely. are there any elected officials who do not become corrupt in some manner as they gain power? Why can't people just stick to the "do unto others" mantra.

    How about the members from a christian church who were going to protest the funerals of the murdered amish girls because of what they thought was immoral behavior by the governement of Pennsylvania? That sounds like a christian way to behave, protest the funerals of children because they are related to the government how? These people are right up there on this list of people who just don't get it.
    These folks are from the Westboro Baptist Church and are some serious nutjobs. They also protests at funerals for US servicemen with signs that say “God hates fags” and “God hates you.” They believe that soldiers are dying because US culture condones homosexuality. They believe God Hates America, Sweden and Canada...

    This is a small but extreme, twisted group of serious haters. They are very much on the fringe and not typical of Christian groups, even those that have a problem with homosexuality. If you really want to get fired up, their webiste is:

    http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html

    Just the URL makes my blood boil...

    To the forum subject, I do think this could have negative fallout for some Republicans, especially Hastert who has been shifting his story around about how, as the house leader, he dealt with this issue when first raised 3 years ago. Now he is "accepting responsibility" but not stepping down. So, in what way is he taking any responsibility, exactly?

    Still, it doesn't impact my vote other than providing a little perverse delight at watching the mayhem unfold at a faster rate than the Republicans can spin it to their advantage. Corporate corruption and government collusion, the Iraq fiasco, the impending economic crash, erosion of civil liberties, our hostile posture to most of the rest of the world and the movement of massive sums of resources to the richest in our country are much higher on my list than a representative that gets excited by little boys.
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    Quote Originally posted by wahday View post
    Still, it doesn't impact my vote other than providing a little perverse delight at watching the mayhem unfold at a faster rate than the Republicans can spin it to their advantage. Corporate corruption and government collusion, the Iraq fiasco, the impending economic crash, erosion of civil liberties, our hostile posture to most of the rest of the world and the movement of massive sums of resources to the richest in our country are much higher on my list than a representative that gets excited by little boys.
    Its a sad day when child molestation becomes considered a minor offense of our leaders.
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    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    Its a sad day when child molestation becomes considered a minor offense of our leaders.
    Hey now, I did not say this action was a minor offense. Of course its not minor and I don't think it is fair to pin that conclusion on me.

    The question to the forum was whether we feel this will hurt the Republicans come November, not whether we thought it was offensive.

    My point was that personally, my mind had already been made up regarding who I will be voting for, so this did not tip the scales. I also don't live in Foley's district nor Hastert's, so it won't effect my voting for them. I think most voters would not suggest that all Republicans are pedophiles by association or even that all Republicans are guilty of not doing anything about it (that falls specifically in Hastert's lap). These actions reflect on Foley the man and not Republicans as a party, except the extent to which house leaders ignored the situation (the details of which are still unfolding).

    I can't say the same for the other issues I cited, however (they required the cooperation of the vast majority of the party), and that is one reason why I will not be voting for any Republican candidates. The other is that I am not a conservative. Regardless, these other issues DO reflect on the party and their specified agenda and so my impression is that they will have more of an impact on what local senatorial and representative candidates people vote for (if they even vote at all) than the Foley case. This what I meant by Foley's case being lower on my list - it is a personal trannsgression, not part of official Republic Party doctrine.

    For the record, Foley is accused of solicitation at this point and not molesting anyone. I'm not defending it, but let's not call him a child rapist just yet. A dirty pervert abusing power and privelage to get off on some twisted sense of pleasure, perhaps, but...
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    I have class in a few minutes and really don't have time to post my entire opinion on this. However, I have been inspired to listen to both Hannity, and Rush, on the local conservative talk radio channel. Nuttier than squirrel sh!t is all I can say.

    "The language used by the teen is strangely similar to that used by police detectives. Therefore, it must all be a set-up by the Dems." - to paraphrase Sean Hannity.

    "The boy was technically over the age of consent" - Rush Limbaugh.

    I suppose they'll never bother to address the real problem of the house leadership enabling a old perv. And here I thought only Liberals were moral relativists.

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    Nice to know a few Republicans are going down (pun intended).
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    Quote Originally posted by wahday View post
    I don't think it is fair to pin that conclusion on me.
    Sorry, that was not directed AT you. I apologize if I have offended you. That was not my intention. We are coming off a long list of poor choices by politicos and contreversy of both professional and political nature, as well as some that bleed into both.

    I expected my comment to be taken as look at how badly we have slipped, and there does not seem to be an end to how low we can go, or to what improprieties our leadership finds itself entangled in.
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    I think that something major needs to happen to prevent this type of thing from happening again on either side of the political spectrum. Anything along these lines should not be tolerated under any circumstances and individuals should be bared from holding public office and be branded as a Sexual Predator, if the person is a minor.

    These types of illegal activities can no longer be tolerated on any level. I think that if Mr. Speaker did know about it and did not do anything about it, he should be forced to resign from office.

    I think that we all need to look past party lines and demand that these types of deliberate disregard for the law not be permitted to continue.
    "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom. Time makes more converts than reason." - Thomas Paine Common Sense.

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    squirrels

    Quote Originally posted by biscuit View post
    Nuttier than squirrel sh!t is all I can say.
    lol! Thanks, I needed that.
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    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    Sorry, that was not directed AT you. I apologize if I have offended you. That was not my intention.
    That's cool. Sorry if I overreacted...
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    I think that something major needs to happen to prevent this type of thing from happening again on either side of the political spectrum.
    So what are you going to do about it?

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