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    Cyburbian Emeritus Bear Up North's avatar
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    Health centers and traffic

    The Michigan Land Use Institute has an interesting article on their website. It deals with the location and issues that arise because of traffic patterns, roadway proposals, and their relationship to bigger health centers. Interesting reading.

    It should be very interesting to a couple Cyburbians.....michaelskis and Z-Man.....

    The two communities discussed are Greeley, CO and Grand Rapids, MI.

    Encourage you to google and check out.

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    $400 million in road widenings in GR for the hospital????!!!???? Come on now who's inflated numbers are those?? do they have to rip down skyscrapers and buy ROW to build these things? MDOT's plan?? MDOT does not own any of the roads in this area, they own I-96/196, but linking a widening of the freeway to this is highly suspect. Freeways operate for movement of trade through GR and as access to downtown in general.

    I am 100 percent behind the medical center being expanded in GR. It makes a lot of sense. Detroit has one located near Woodward and Warren, which allows most of the City to easily access the hospitals by bus. GR's complex is also centrally located. I don't get how they talk about walkable communities, but don't really buy the need for one lane roads, nor do I understand a seven lane cross section either. You can build roads with lower speeds, pedestrian landing areas, and all for those that need to move from one building to another.

    What is not known here is if this area is going to be superblocked to borrow a 1970's convention. Again, Detroit's is, and it works great. I don't see how not accomondating development in central cities, where needs are greater, transit is located, and the agglomeration effects could make it an attractive alternative to office parks can be a bad thing.

    Something is very fishy with this story.
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    OT: What is up with cities zoning districts just for medical offices? ALL of the doctors' offices in my current city are clustered around the two hospitals mainly due to zoning. It is very inconvenient for those who would like to see doctors near their home or work. Is this common outside of the Northeast? Is it justifiable from a market perspective?

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    Quote Originally posted by jmello View post
    OT: What is up with cities zoning districts just for medical offices? ALL of the doctors' offices in my current city are clustered around the two hospitals mainly due to zoning. It is very inconvenient for those who would like to see doctors near their home or work. Is this common outside of the Northeast? Is it justifiable from a market perspective?
    I'd agree. I would think a mix would be appropriate. It makes sense for specialists to be located in a medical center environment, but I don't see the need for GP, pediaticians, OB, or dentists to all located there. We have clinics right in the neighborhood as well as large office buildings near hospitals in Detroit, and this seems typical of the mid-west in general.

    I have noticed this sort of phenomena in areas with rural regional hospitals though. One example would be the regional hospital in West Branch Michigan. The land uses surrounding the Hospital are almost all medical related (offices, assisted living), and there are few other places in town, or heck even in nearby towns where there are medical offices.

    BTW, if MDOT was planning this, why is it not to be found in their 5-year plan for the Grand Rapids area? Lots of other studies are mentioned.
    http://www.michigan.gov/documents/MD...d_143124_7.pdf

    Again I have to question the validity of this piece.
    Last edited by DetroitPlanner; 10 Oct 2006 at 4:22 PM.
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