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    Cyburbian Brocktoon's avatar
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    Secessionists of the world, unite!

    First North American Secessionist Convention was held in Vermont over the weekend so successionist from around the country could meet and share ideas.

    Here is a story from the Philly Enquirer

    http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/n...nquirer_nation

    So what do you think? Is this a movement that could gain traction in the US? Will these people be able to start the debate that secession is an illegal act? Were you aware of such movements in New England, Alaska, the South, Vermont, etc?
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    Not quite becoming a separate county, but Michigan’s Upper Peninsula has some people who want to see the UP become the 51st State called “Superior” or become part of Wisconsin.

    Beyond that does the Native American’s have their own Nation?
    "The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism." - George Washington

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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    Not quite becoming a separate county, but Michigan’s Upper Peninsula has some people who want to see the UP become the 51st State called “Superior” or become part of Wisconsin.

    Beyond that does the Native American’s have their own Nation?
    A state named Superior. I kind of like that. Some political gasbag saying, "I yield my remaining time to the esteemed senior senator from Superior."
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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    A state named Superior. I kind of like that. Some political gasbag saying, "I yield my remaining time to the esteemed senior senator from Superior."
    Senators do not "yield time". Once a senator has the floor, he or she can speak as long as they want, so long as they keep talking and remain standing. If a senator is speaking for a long time in order to hold up legislative business, that is called a filibuster. They can yield the floor, but there is no "time" to be yielded. That only occurs in the House of Representatives, where each speaker is granted a certain amount of time by the Speaker of the House or presiding officer.
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    Beyond that does the Native American’s have their own Nation?
    Sort of. All Native American reservation land is held in Federal Trust, and Federal law still regulates the political and economic activity on reservation land.
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    Quote Originally posted by Joe Iliff View post
    Senators do not "yield time". Once a senator has the floor, he or she can speak as long as they want, so long as they keep talking and remain standing. If a senator is speaking for a long time in order to hold up legislative business, that is called a filibuster. They can yield the floor, but there is no "time" to be yielded. That only occurs in the House of Representatives, where each speaker is granted a certain amount of time by the Speaker of the House or presiding officer.
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    The Northern part of Va has talked for years about breaking off from the rest of Va but we sure as heck dont want to become part of DC
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    Quote Originally posted by PlannerGirl View post
    ..but we sure as heck dont want to become part of DC
    Or, surely, part of West Virginia.

    (sorry WV)
    I'm sorry. Is my bias showing?

    The ends can justify the means.

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    Quote Originally posted by PlannerGirl View post
    The Northern part of Va has talked for years about breaking off from the rest of Va but we sure as heck dont want to become part of DC
    With the rise of influence in VA politics by the northern counties I would guess that the rest of VA would want to split from NoVA.

    It seems that the rest of DC would welcome NoVA with open arms...especially if you brought your Congressional representation with you.
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    There was a brief secessionist movement in southwestern Kansas back in the late 1980's early 1990's. As I recall they wanted to break away from Kansas and convince parts of Oklahoma, Colorado, Texas and New Mexico to join them in creating a new state. They felt that Topeka was out of touch.
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    GO for it.....

    Quote Originally posted by Budgie View post
    There was a brief secessionist movement in southwestern Kansas back in the late 1980's early 1990's. As I recall they wanted to break away from Kansas and convince parts of Oklahoma, Colorado, Texas and New Mexico to join them in creating a new state. They felt that Topeka was out of touch.
    Too bad that didn't work out A new state that includes the panhandle of Oklahoma and Springfiled Colorado...... I think its safe to say that tourism wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the list of reasons for visiting that place...... Alex, I'll take obscure new states that no one wants to visit for $1,000.......

    How about states that should be combined???

    N. Dakota and S. Dakota.......I mean really.....come on.....
    New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine......might add up to one "real" state
    Florida and Cuba.....er Puerto Rico......oh yeah.....maybe in the future.....
    Alabama and Mississippi......just stands to reason on this one.....
    Wisconsin needs to take over the U.P......he he he.....standing back to see the sparks fly....
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    Quote Originally posted by The One View post
    Alabama and Mississippi......just stands to reason on this one.....
    Actually, Lower Alabama should be annexed by Alabama proper. What say you of Lower Alabama?
    Last edited by Budgie; 06 Nov 2006 at 6:56 PM.
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    The residents of Key West have been threatening to secede for years. "The Conch Republic", I believe it would be called....

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    Test response.

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    Another test response.

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    Yet another test response.

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    Heck, while they're at it they should invite all 30+M of their northern backyard neighbors to their little shindig. Looks to me these days like most of Canada is thinking about separating from itself.

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    One of my favorites -

    The Kingdom of Breckenridge, Colorado.
    The story goes that it was left out of the Louisiana Purchase and Texas Annexation, bestowing upon itself the title of “Kingdom.”

    http://www.experience-colorado.com/a...ies.html?id=29

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    We wish to force Washington DC to secede from the Union.

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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    A state named Superior. I kind of like that.
    http://superiorland.blogspot.com/

    Here is some information on it. I don't think that it will ever happen, but it is funny to talk about.
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