Does anyone have a guess on the trips generated from a 180,000 sq ft retail development?
Does anyone have a guess on the trips generated from a 180,000 sq ft retail development?
“As soon as public service ceases to be the chief business of the citizens, and they would rather serve with their money than with their persons, the State is not far from its fall”
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Do you have a better breakdown of the uses inside? Is it one large big box type retailer or a combination of different types of retail use summing up to 180,000 sq.ft.?
Any answer you will get is going to have to be taken with a grain of salt; a lot of people may be wary of responding for that reason.
I'd suggest finding a book like these, and figuring it out yourself. There are no simple answers.
http://www.ite.org/cgi-bin/searcht.c...&sw=3&de=0&it=
http://www.ite.org/bookstore/tripgen.pdf
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It may be in this ITE spreadsheet (depending on exact use):
http://www.cyburbia.org/forums/showt...rip+generation
Who's gonna re-invent the wheel today?
Originally posted by DetroitPlanner
No no no - you'll put people like me out of a job!
I'll echo previous posters and suggest you provide more information...I can easily provide an answer straight from the ITE book, but local conditions mentioned really do impact trip generation.
It will be a medium box anchor (Kohl's) of about 80,000 sq ft and a strip of other retail yet to be determined of about 100,000 sqft. Local population of 30K and about 150K within 50 miles.
“As soon as public service ceases to be the chief business of the citizens, and they would rather serve with their money than with their persons, the State is not far from its fall”
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Thats why I suggest he doing his own research, then reminded him that there were no simple answers. I know our modelers live for people to ask them that sort of stuff. For my applications, I try to keep things simple (I work on the project programming, finance, and selection end).No no no - you'll put people like me out of a job!
I'll echo previous posters and suggest you provide more information...I can easily provide an answer straight from the ITE book, but local conditions mentioned really do impact trip generation.
We hope for better things; it will arise from the ashes - Fr Gabriel Richard 1805
Sheesh! That's what I get for contributing to Thousand Post Tuesday! I have hired the RPC to calculate that for me. Do my own research.... that's a good one.
“As soon as public service ceases to be the chief business of the citizens, and they would rather serve with their money than with their persons, the State is not far from its fall”
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Ask thier engineers for a TIA.
Especially if they are us, we like those change orders.
Dammed try to appease Tranplanner and E85... not an easy thing to do.
Mea Culpa!
We hope for better things; it will arise from the ashes - Fr Gabriel Richard 1805
Makes me wonder who the engineer is. Want to fill us in, Giff?Ask thier engineers for a TIA.
Especially if they are us, we like those change orders.
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They have hired a local engineer. Kohl's is just leasing and the developer is out of AZ.
“As soon as public service ceases to be the chief business of the citizens, and they would rather serve with their money than with their persons, the State is not far from its fall”
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Since this is a shopping center, using the ITE shopping center makes sense, especially when it will show more trips overall in comparision to the study that Kohl's is using for their stand-alone stores. However, if this is phased, you might want to look at it differently.
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Haven't they conducted actual studies from their previous shops?
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