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    Light rail costs...

    Hey all, I was wondering, what are light rail costs for when it runs underground? I know it can be from 40-60 million per mile, but what would it be for an underground line?

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    do you mean capital costs?

    I don't think you could come up with a ballpark for something like that! depth, utilities, soils, right of way costs will all vary dramactically depending upon application. 40-60 million for track seems a bit high to me! I don't think you can have an average cost for that as amount of rolling stock needed, station requirements, and signals/operating costs would vary as well.
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    Well the price is different for different cities, Norfolk (i think that was the city, or something else with an N) was about 30-40 million per mile, while Phoenix was like 60 million per mile.

    While KC isn't as dense as some cities, we still don't have a lot of room to put light rail other than the street itself, and our current DT plan has several avenues to be changed to more pedestrian oriented and transit oriented streets in the future.

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    Quote Originally posted by HeartlandCityBoy View post
    Hey all, I was wondering, what are light rail costs for when it runs underground? I know it can be from 40-60 million per mile, but what would it be for an underground line?
    Would generally be equivalent to subway costs - in the range of $100-200 million per mile, depending on the tunnelling technology used, number of stations, etc.

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    Ahah rule of thumb costs, the holy grail?!

    Sunderland extension to the Newcastle Metro, UK, cost about £11m a mile. In 2004.

    San Jose's cost $25 million per mile back in 1992.

    OTrain project in Ontario Canada reckons it only cost $21m Canadian for 8km, but that used existing track.

    The UK Department of transport estimated pevious costs exceed £40m per km in the UK, in a report which effectively said light rail was no good in Britain.

    So erm... i dont know, but generally speaking alot. Looks like about $40 - 60 as you said? But the examples above all used existing track in places i think, so higher if its on street.

    I seem to remember a good rule of tumb as times it by 5 if its underground.

    I might look into this.

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