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Poll results: Which movie making jobs would you like to do for a living?

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  • Film Star

    4 17.39%
  • Minor actor

    4 17.39%
  • Producer

    6 26.09%
  • Director

    4 17.39%
  • Cinematographer

    2 8.70%
  • Set design/construction

    2 8.70%
  • Something in Art Department

    1 4.35%
  • Camera crew

    2 8.70%
  • Writer

    7 30.43%
  • 'Digital Wizard'

    0 0%
  • Special Effects Department

    3 13.04%
  • Combination 'Grip' and 'Best Boy'

    1 4.35%
  • Accounting

    0 0%
  • Anna Nicole's Personal Assistant

    1 4.35%
  • Other - specify and explain below

    3 13.04%
  • Costume Department

    2 8.70%
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Thread: Makin' Movies

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    Chairman of the bored Maister's avatar
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    Makin' Movies

    Everybody loves the movies. Some folks even fantasize about being in the movies themselves. I think it would be interesting/fun to be a famous movie star….. for maybe a couple months – but have to believe that celebrity status would get mighty old after just a few weeks, what with the paparazzi constantly stalking and never being able to do simple things like go shopping or take your kids to the park without being recognized and mobbed by crowds asking for autographs, photos and questions etc.

    Fortunately, there’s a whole lot more involved with moviemaking than just acting. Lots of movie DVD’s now have ‘making of’ special features included. Sometimes the ‘making of’ segments are more interesting than the movies themselves! Notable special features that come to mind include: the model making features for ‘Lord of the Rings’, the various animation process segments on ‘Shrek’, the costume design feature on ‘Oceans 11’and just about anything produced by Industrial Light and Magic. The technology involved in modern filmmaking is astounding. A number of tasks previously performed by various lighting and film specialists are now performed in editing rooms by computer wizards: digital lighting effects, digital sound (although they still use the old ‘foley’ sound people and most walking scenes for instance are still produced by people walking in place wearing leather shoes), and CGI. to name a few recent innovations.

    The cost of producing a major release film nowadays runs in the neighborhood of 50 million dollars. Some of the increased expense is due to exorbitant actors’ salaries and extensive marketing/promotion, but if you look at the credits of films now versus those made 40 years ago, it seems like they are about four times as long as their predecessors. Some of the numerous job titles give little clue as to their function, but with all the ‘making of’ features now available the public is getting an education.

    If you had the opportunity to be involved in any aspect of filmmaking you chose, what would you like to do?

    Personally, I’m happiest in an environment where I’m collaborating on a creative endeavor (e.g. I really enjoyed helping come up with Cyburbia’s April Fools Day joke this year) and for that reason I think I would enjoy being on the script writing team. I wish to heaven I had the artistic talent to be a storyboard artist because that would be my first choice, but I just don’t have that talent. I suspect cch would also be a great person to have on the creative writing team, as would Bear Up North (now that I look at the last caption contest I should probably add Mastiff to the list too) and about a half dozen others. Mskis comes to mind as a likely candidate for an executive producer (the guy who is responsible for implementing the budget and ensuring the production schedule stays on track) and there’s probably a half dozen others here that would make decent directors IMO. Who here has artistic talent? Who has good set building/design skills? Could you see yourself as a schmoozing studio publicist who attends all the photo ops and red carpet galas to provide that all important 10 second sound bite? Any stuntpeople or stunt coordinator wannabes out there?
    Last edited by Maister; 21 May 2007 at 12:47 PM.
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    My brother works as an electrican/props for location shoots.
    I have a cousin who has done camera work.
    Good Union pay. :-
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    Wouldn't it be hard to be Anna Nicole's Personal Assistant with her being dead and all.
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    Quote Originally posted by Whose Yur Planner View post
    Wouldn't it be hard to be Anna Nicole's Personal Assistant with her being dead and all.
    Or it would be the easiest job you ever had. Depending on the pay, I could do it.

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    You forgot 'Porn star stunt double' in the list, so I picked 'other'.
    What’s in a name? – Your reputation….:)

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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    Or it would be the easiest job you ever had. Depending on the pay, I could do it.

    "Anything I can do for you, Miss Smith?"

    Silence

    "Okay. Guess I'll go run some errands. Is that okay?"

    Silence.

    "Alright then. I'll check in with you tomorrow. Bye"
    Okay, I'll add otterpop to the writer's list too.

    Quote Originally posted by Flying Monkeys
    You forgot 'Porn star stunt double' in the list
    Um, wouldn't that be a really undesirable job?

    That would mean doing all the things the porn stars weren't willing to do! The Question that naturally follows is what exactly is it a porn star would be reluctant to do?
    People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor

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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post

    Um, wouldn't that be a really undesirable job?
    No, I was thinking of the guy they call when they need the close up. And you need the stunt guy for.....well you know.
    What’s in a name? – Your reputation….:)

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    We already had this discussion "fluffer"
    http://www.cyburbia.org/forums/showt...hlight=fluffer
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    Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
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    No. Just some parts wake up faster than others.
    Broke parts take a little longer, though.
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    Your forgot the biggest parasites in the industry, the agents. I was very close to moving to LA and working for CAA as an agent trainee after college. Not a fun industry. Although the money would have been great the slayer of slime that one develops would be hard to live with.

    The best job in Hollywood has got to be Producer, closely followed by Otterpop's work as Ms. Smith's assistant.
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    Quote Originally posted by Brocktoon View post
    The best job in Hollywood has got to be Producer
    Different personality types are drawn to different jobs. Being a producer would probably be a major headache in most people's eyes. Think about all the huge egos (actors, directors, skilled technicians who are tops in their field, etc) one would have to juggle/assuage. One would also need to have a sharp mind for business, an ability to improvise when trouble/surprises emerge to interrupt work (and they always emerge) and top of the line people skills. Not everyone comes equipped with all of that.
    People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor

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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    Different personality types are drawn to different jobs. Being a producer would probably be a major headache in most people's eyes. Think about all the huge egos (actors, directors, skilled technicians who are tops in their field, etc) one would have to juggle/assuage. One would also need to have a sharp mind for business, an ability to improvise when trouble/surprises emerge to interrupt work (and they always emerge) and top of the line people skills. Not everyone comes equipped with all of that.

    I do all of that already. I need a raise, a big one.
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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    Okay, I'll add otterpop to the writer's list too.
    Thank you. I accept.
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    I selected "Other". I would advocate that there must be captioning in various languages, including English, for all films, not just Hollywood movies.

    It's so annoying to borrow or to rent movies that say they come with captioning and to come home, put in the movie in the player, and find out that there is only captioning in French and/or Spanish, but not in English.

    Even movies from NFB say that captioning is available when a decoder is attached to a tv. To my limited knowledge, decoders of this kind do not exist any more.

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    Quote Originally posted by Brocktoon View post
    Your forgot the biggest parasites in the industry, the agents. I was very close to moving to LA and working for CAA as an agent trainee after college. Not a fun industry. Although the money would have been great the slayer of slime that one develops would be hard to live with.
    Okay, this invites explanation. Why are talent agents pond scum?

    What about people that work in casting - different skill set?
    People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor

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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    Different personality types are drawn to different jobs. Being a producer would probably be a major headache in most people's eyes. Think about all the huge egos (actors, directors, skilled technicians who are tops in their field, etc) one would have to juggle/assuage. One would also need to have a sharp mind for business, an ability to improvise when trouble/surprises emerge to interrupt work (and they always emerge) and top of the line people skills. Not everyone comes equipped with all of that.
    I forgot to add "executive" to producer. Write a check, hire a good producer and sit back. Since you control the purse strings you get to make the movie you want unless you have investors then you have to find them...which would suck!

    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    Okay, this invites explanation. Why are talent agents pond scum?

    What about people that work in casting - different skill set?
    Agents have one goal and that is to get their actor work to get paid. That means they worry more about the paycheck than what is the best role for the actor. Plus the two faced nature of the industry. The amount of ass kissing and back slapping plus the under handed tricks that often come into play. Are their some good hearted agents that truly can for their clients, sure… all hundred plus clients…maybe, but not likely? Many agents relish it when other agents fail because they can pick up their clients. The agents I have meet remind me of Armani dressed used car salesmen. That might not be slimy to you but that is not how I want to make a living.


    If you watch Entourage, the role of Ari Gold is a good example of a good agent.


    As for casting, I have never encountered a casting agent but my understanding is they just make their recommendations to the directors and producers.
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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    Okay, this invites explanation. Why are talent agents pond scum?
    I guess you have not been watching entourage? (Great show)

    Ari Gold shows why this is.
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    I have always wanted to be the equine consultation on movies that feature horses.

    I don't know how many times I have seen the wrong breeds, colors, tack, etc. It just ruins it for me - and for all of the other horse people out there.

    Other than that, I would love to work in the special effects department or be the producer.
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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    Or it would be the easiest job you ever had. Depending on the pay, I could do it.

    "Anything I can do for you, Miss Smith?"

    Silence

    "Okay. Guess I'll go run some errands. Is that okay?"

    Silence.

    "Alright then. I'll check in with you tomorrow. Bye"
    That's why I chose it. I figure I could be her personal assistant from here and just collect the paychecks from whichever BabyDaddy is willing to pay.

    Actually, I would LOVE to be a costume designer. I seriously thought about it (ok, not too seriously) for a minute -- I was once in a similar field; I wondered how hard it would be to transition.
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    As long as it is a job where you can tell people where to go and what to do when they get there

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    I said director, producer or cinemaphotographer.

    I have always wanted to direct a movies- but i think i would probably be more suited as a cinemaphotographer with my photography interest and skills. I am one of these people that sit and watch movies and dont neccessarily pay attention to the acting or storyline, but what the camera does.
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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    If you had the opportunity to be involved in any aspect of filmmaking you chose, what would you like to do?
    I want to be on sound design. I have a vision of an opening scene of a David Lynch filem (or Robert Altman a la "Short Cuts") with a robin flying, more like thumping to its death, into a window of a suburban single-family home in the middle of a sweltering hot July Saturday afternoon, and an over-aged skater punk, say about 19 years old, not necessarily a poser, but certainly past his prime, is outside chilling out on his porch, stoned out of his head, fried on E or heroin, sweating and smiling, watching this bird inadvertently meet its demise, then he passes out, rolling onto the lawn, looking up to the sky, all the while "Gimme Shelter" by the Rolling Stones is playing in the background.

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    Quote Originally posted by Hceux View post
    I selected "Other". I would advocate that there must be captioning in various languages, including English, for all films, not just Hollywood movies.

    It's so annoying to borrow or to rent movies that say they come with captioning and to come home, put in the movie in the player, and find out that there is only captioning in French and/or Spanish, but not in English.

    Even movies from NFB say that captioning is available when a decoder is attached to a tv. To my limited knowledge, decoders of this kind do not exist any more.
    I find the subtitle option so handy, I even use it for english language films sometime. I was watching SHerlock Holmes on DVD with the subtitles so I could catch what was happening in a scene where Italian was spoken. The subtitle read"arguing in Italian"

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    Yes... and it's Mr. Michaelskis, sir.

    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    Mskis comes to mind as a likely candidate for an executive producer (the guy who is responsible for implementing the budget and ensuring the production schedule stays on track)
    Got that one right… you should have seen the time table and detailed plan I did when I remodeled the condo! It took up a full binder, time matrices, regular calendar, lists of specific tasks, cost comparison analysis for materials, and maps showing the location of materials at several big box home improvement stores. But in the end, it saved us THOUSANDS of dollars.

    Hey, the behind the signs detail is the key to completion! Yes it is a thankless job that requires hard choices, but creative measures can help reduce costs.
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    The Godbear, Part 2

    This Bear picked DIRECTOR and WRITER. I know I could be creative enough to write......have you seen any movies lately?.....most of them suck.....I could write sucky stuff, too.

    Not sure if I really could direct. It would be fun trying, though.

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