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Poll results: Who do you think will win the Democratic Nominee for President?

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  • Clinton

    9 24.32%
  • Obama

    16 43.24%
  • Edwards

    5 13.51%
  • Gore

    4 10.81%
  • One of the others who won’t win.

    3 8.11%
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    Cyburbian michaelskis's avatar
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    Who do you think will win the Democratic Nominee for President?

    Because this forum board is mostly democrat, I thought that we will start with who you like as the democratic nominee. Each of them have their good qualities, but some of them are better than others.

    Who do you like and WHY? Who knows, if enough good is said about any of the candidates in here, it may just sway my vote! (I am still open minded)
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    Because this forum board is mostly democrat, I thought that we will start with who you like as the democratic nominee. Each of them have their good qualities, but some of them are better than others.

    Who do you like and WHY? Who knows, if enough good is said about any of the candidates in here, it may just sway my vote! (I am still open minded)
    Rodger Rabbit....does it really matter? I am a democrat, and look at what a great job they did fulfilling the promises that got them elected recently? It’s a joke.

    Who is the Anarchist candidate? That is who I am voting for.
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    It's too early for me to vote, I think our candidates should be in combat fatigues from here on out, they have a war to work on.

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    Obama is the Edwards of 2008. He'll stick around to keep it interesting. Clinton will get the nod in the end.

    Gore...has no intentions of running. Could get the nod if he got in...he's got a ton of cash should he get in late. Really has turned into a grassroots candidate. If he's going to get in, it'll be later on when the GOP has settled down on its choice. I think Gore wants to know who the competition really is on both sides.

    Overall, I'm not terribly inspired by the field based on who's acutally really out there. I had liked Mark Warner of VA...
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    I'm not investing a lot of time at this point in evaluating candidates. At this point, they are really just starting to develop policy proposals and such (Obama just did his semi-universal healthcare).

    What I can say is that odds are a democrat will win in 2008. The republicans appear very fragmented right now--I don't see a single candidate that I think they can all stand behind. Christian fundies, a major voting block in the last election, have not voiced support for any of the perceived front-runners. Also, the republican party is critically wounded from the incredibly unpopular Iraq War and an incredibly unpopular republican president. Every republican front-runner has a major strike in some form against them when it comes to securing the nomination.

    I don't think Gore will run. He has discovered that he can accomplish a lot without political constraints. Also, you know that 2000 loss was extremely painful for him, so I doubt he really wants to put himself or his family through it again. The bad part is, I'm pretty sure he would win if he threw his hat in. Gore has completely separated himself from his old robotic image and political perceptions. Also, he is really passionate about issues and, at least now when he isn't running, doesn't flip with the wind of the polls. Obviously, if he ran I would cast my vote for him. I appreciate someone who attacks things analytically while still keeping some emotion and passion. I do think that if he doesn't run, he is very likely to get brought into a cabinet-level position or otherwise a major advisor for the administration.

    As it stands right now, I'd probably go with Obama unless Gore joins. He is young, articulate and optomistic. At first glance I like his healthcare proposal--I think it is something that could get some bipartisan support because it doesn't completely remove the private sector, only supplements it. I haven't read much about his other ideas, but this one seemed pretty logical and thought out. I think Obama could get the nomination if only because he is more electable than Clinton.

    Clinton. Well, what can I say? She is a power-hungry carpetbagger that does whatever the pollsters tell her to, even if it means contradicting herself. Of the entire group, she seems the most politician-like. Her tendency to grandstand, frankly, annoys me. She seems to have that same robotic feel that plagued Gore during his 2000 race, likely a result of bad election advisors. We saw her policy formulation process in the badly orchestrated heathcare reform proposal in the early 90s. No thanks, I think I'll pass. A shame really, because I liked Bill Clinton.

    I don't trust John Edwards. I have no idea why, but for some reason he just rubs me the wrong way.

    EDIT: I like Bill Richardson as well: He'd make a good Sec. of State in my opinion.
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    I have not made my decision and don't plan on making it until the end of the summer. There will be at least another 30 debates to help me make my decision.

    I like Edwards, Obama and Richardson but I have problems with each. The differences between the Democratic candidates seem less pronounced than one the Republican side.

    I think Gore is 50/50 on whether or not to run. He is losing weight, wrote a book on policy and is meeting with high profile donors who are begging him to run. I don't think he will run. He is making too much money and having too much fun talking about something he is truly passionate about.

    If Bloomberg jumps in (as an independent) I will give him a serious look. He has cleaned up the mess that Giuliani made of the city and could self finance his run.
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    While I prefer Obama, I will likely vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is.
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    I like Obama, Clinton just rubs me the wrong way. Although, who knows what will happen. This early in the '92 and '98 races both Bill and George Jr. respectively were both relative unknowns and not running in the lead.

    Aside... I am going to see Obama speak tomorrow in Seattle. He is a moving orator, it will be exciting to hear the man talk.

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    I've said in previous posts in other threads that I thought Gore would be the next President. I'll stick to my guns.

    If he decides to run, he would draw the Bill Clinton support away from Hillary and he would take away from some of the glitz that Obama's campaign has offered. Combine that with his already sizable support, and there you have it.

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    Quote Originally posted by Suburb Repairman View post
    Clinton. Well, what can I say? She is a power-hungry carpetbagger that does whatever the pollsters tell her to, even if it means contradicting herself. Of the entire group, she seems the most politician-like. Her tendency to grandstand, frankly, annoys me. She seems to have that same robotic feel that plagued Gore during his 2000 race, likely a result of bad election advisors. We saw her policy formulation process in the badly orchestrated heathcare reform proposal in the early 90s. No thanks, I think I'll pass. A shame really, because I liked Bill Clinton.
    Wow, sounds like you like her less than I do!
    If you get a chance, check you the connections between InfoUSA and the Clintons. It is sad that the media is avoiding this.
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    ah....yeah....

    Nice Poll.....

    Richardson is the only viable candidate for me now......so far......
    I agree about the rant rave and cave congress now!! Ridiculous
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    Mike Skis will win the democratic vote with his running-mate Bart
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    I'll do what I always do in the NH Primary, vote for a candidate that matches my views the most (this time looking like Richardson...previously I've voted for people like Edwards, Harkin, etc.), and vote for whomever the Dem's nominee is in the general election (with the caveat of voting for the GOP candidate if the Dem choice is horrible).
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    I prefer Obama or Clinton. I think Obama is a great candidate, but maybe that he's not quite ready this time. I hope that he develops a little more over the campaign- sometimes it looks as though he doesn't really want it though.

    I also understand some of the criticism of Hillary. It's true, she's not the best speaker- but that doesn't necessarily make a good president. The first Bush and the current one aren't great speakers. Hillary suffers because Bill is such an excellent speaker.

    While I don't approve of Hillary trying to weasel out of explaining her Iraq war vote (just admit it was a mistake already), I do think she has what it takes to be a good President. She's been an effective Senator for New York. She's been able to build consensus and even get a record number of Republicans to support her up there. I think she's smart and moderate- two things I value. Who cares if you wouldn't want to hang out with her at a BBQ? Why do they poll on those things anyway?

    Regardless, I'll probably vote for whoever is the Democratic nominee. I'm not opposed to all Republicans, but the current ones all sound like warmongers to me.

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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    If you get a chance, check you the connections between InfoUSA and the Clintons. It is sad that the media is avoiding this.
    Here is a NY Times story on the Clintons and infoUSA founder Vinod Gupta

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/26/us...ss&oref=slogin

    Here is one from the Washington Post.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052502332.html

    Its sounds like they are rather cozy.
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    Anyone But Clinton! I think you will see a lot of conservatives giving money to Clinton during the primaries just so they can run a republican against her.

    My fantansy is for Al Gore to run, get the most votes in the primaries, get his issues into the larger debate and then refuse the nomination at the convention and throw the whole thing wide open. This country and the party need a real political convention and not another rubber stamp photo-op and a much shorter election cycle.

    I would like to see a Richardson-Obama ticket. I real mix of experience and hope, a governor and a senator, a westerner and a midwesterner plus a multi-ethnic ticket with a little something for almost everyone.

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    Hillary in '08 and '12.

    Maybe the only centrist I'll ever get to vote for in my lifetime, other than Anderson in 1980.
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    Quote Originally posted by safege View post
    Hillary in '08 and '12.

    Maybe the only centrist I'll ever get to vote for in my lifetime, other than Anderson in 1980.

    Hah, put the pipe down. If you think she'd be a good president look what she has (or hasn't) done for her adopted state that she was suppose to represent. Most of her time during this term has mainly been spent campaining (out of state at NYS taxpayers expense) for the presidential nomination she says she wasn't going to run for due to the fact that she was elected to do her job as a senator for this pathetic state that keeps electing status quo "my God given right is to be a life term politician" state. Look at her past term as well. Nothing accomplished (that could be said about alot of politicians around here).

    Once again I will have to write my name into the ballot.
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    I think Edwards will get the nod. Hillary and Obama are just too different to be accepted by so many in the party. I liked Hill when I met her (In NY! RT, Auburn, no less), she was personable, just as I'm sure Obama is, but John is the safe alternative, if not particularly exciting. I hope someone comes out of left field....
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    Quote Originally posted by DrumLineKid View post
    I liked Hill when I met her (In NY! RT, Auburn, no less),|

    Off-topic:
    What was she doing there, visiting the prison to preach how she helped create economic growth in the redheaded bastardized stepchild known to Albany and points below as Upstate NY?






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    I really don't know who will win the nomination. I haven't even made up my own mind about which candidate is worth my vote. Edwards? Obama? Richardson? I agree with a lot of what Suburb Repairman said, esp. about Gore and Clinton. Clinton an effective senator for NY? I'm not so sure about that, even though I voted for her. She can never answer a question directly - it drives my husband crazy! The Republicans would have a field day with her as the Democratic nominee... I hope she doesn't get it.

    I'm very impressed with Bill Richardson - he certainly has the experience and intellect - I'm just not sure he can win the presidency.

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    Quote Originally posted by Rumpy Tunanator
    Off-topic:
    What was she doing there, visiting the prison to preach how she helped create economic growth in the redheaded bastardized stepchild known to Albany and points below as Upstate NY?
    It must have been an award announcement or something. Otherwise, I wouldn't have been invited. We didn't pay much attention to Downstate, or Albany for that matter....... I live in DE now, in Dover. The State is so small and the City is the Capital (is that the correct spelling?), so state politics are in our faces all the time.

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    As a centrist Republican, I have to say that I'm more interested in the Democrats right now than the Republicans (since my party insists it must field a candidate that can carry the bible-belt-thumping south, which is not my issue, but I digress...). I really like Richardson but I just don't see him getting traction, and his answers to questions about AG Gonzalez were less-than-satisfying.

    Off-topic:
    Chelsea Clinton was out campaigning for The Senator and she asked a Marine what his three biggest fears were. He answered Osama, Obama and your Momma.

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    OK, do you want to know who I think is going to win or who I WANT to win?
    There is probably going to be a huge difference...
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