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    Phone interview only? (Seeing before committing, also salary negotiation).

    Last week, I conducted a phone interview with a county out of state and felt I did pretty well. They wanted me to be at the intereview, but they gave me little notice and wouldn't pay for travel.
    After the phone interview, I got a call that they want to check references, etc. Which leads me to believe that an offer may be imminent.

    However, I do not feel comfortable accepting an offer when I haven't had the chance to seeing the operation and meet the people face-to-face. Is it out of line to ask to fly up there before acceptance?
    (of course, they mayoffer to meet me face-to-face after checking references but before offering, I haven't heard anything yet)
    What do you guys think?

    Also, what can you offer about salary negotiation? Irf I have to move, then my wife will have to look for a job and we'd still have our house to sell. I want to ask for more than I make now, which would still be in the range they offer, but I have never had to do this before.

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    You can go out, you can take a ride/And when you get out on your own/You get all smoothed out inside/And it's good to be alone
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    I think that would give a positive impression, actually. You really want to investigate before you accept, completely natural.
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    You will want to go and check things out. You can have all the statistical info, photos, and news from an area, but until you walk around you will not get a good feel for the place.

    I wish that I had spent more time walking around and getting a feel for the place before I accepted my first job.
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    Quote Originally posted by zmanPLAN View post
    Last week, I conducted a phone interview with a county out of state and felt I did pretty well. They wanted me to be at the interview, but they gave me little notice and wouldn't pay for travel.
    After the phone interview, I got a call that they want to check references, etc. Which leads me to believe that an offer may be imminent.

    However, I do not feel comfortable accepting an offer when I haven't had the chance to seeing the operation and meet the people face-to-face. Is it out of line to ask to fly up there before acceptance?
    (of course, they mayoffer to meet me face-to-face after checking references but before offering, I haven't heard anything yet)
    What do you guys think?

    Also, what can you offer about salary negotiation? Irf I have to move, then my wife will have to look for a job and we'd still have our house to sell. I want to ask for more than I make now, which would still be in the range they offer, but I have never had to do this before.

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    I don't think it's out of line to ask to fly up there but be prepared for them to say their budget doesn't allow it. They will likely want to meet you, yes.

    what I did for a long-distance hire was I am paying his expenses for the final interview and his move up upon successful completion of his 6 month probationary period. You may want to negotiate the same, as I think that is completely reasonable .

    Always ask for a 9-12% raise on a job change, especially if you are moving for it - it's not worth it otherwise

    good luck and let us know how it's going!

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    Go. Take a long weekend. See what you can see. If it looks good and you feel good about it, you have to feel it and see it. I assume you have done as much as possible on-line, real estate, your wife's job, newspaper articles about planning type stuff, the disposition of the last person in the position. If not, see what you can find. You never know.........


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    Quote Originally posted by luckless pedestrian View post
    Always ask for a 9-12% raise on a job change, especially if you are moving for it - it's not worth it otherwise
    My father always told me 20% or is not worth it. I start a new job tomorrow. He has never been wrong.

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    My wife and I know the area pretty well and it has been a place in which we have wanted to relocate at some point. So there are no qualms what what the area is like.

    I really want to see the office, the processes, meet the staff and get a first hand feel for what a potential new job would entail.

    On this, my FIL says he hires people over the phone and acceptance is site-unseen for his office. He works for the Feds and I feel that one could accept a position over the phone for the Feds because the SOPs and Office practices may be more standardized than a city-county position. Therefore one has more of a notion of what they are getting into. But with a city/county position, things can differ so much (even within the same state) that it would behoove folks in our profession to check things out first.

    Regardless, I have heard nothing (except that my references are being checked) and cannot comment until I recieve a call.
    You get all squeezed up inside/Like the days were carved in stone/You get all wired up inside/And it's bad to be alone

    You can go out, you can take a ride/And when you get out on your own/You get all smoothed out inside/And it's good to be alone
    -Peart

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