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    Undergrad thesis: is it worth the effort?

    What are the benefits of doing an undergraduate thesis? I am interested in applying to some masters programs in urban planning - which appear to be more "professional" than research-oriented.

    Currently, I'm an undergrad student in geography and I have the option to do an undergraduate thesis instead of taking some 4th year courses. However, I am aware that doing a thesis can be a lot of work and I've heard many horror stories about it. Honestly, I would feel much more comfortable doing some 4th year courses than a thesis.

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    My own feeling is that a degree with a thesis is viewed as a little more rigourous, and earns more respect. You may personally find it beneficial in preparing for a masters program, as you will gain the experience of developing methodology, researching a topic, and writing on it. Any good masters program will require extensive research-based writing. So will your job. Finally, you will potentially have something you can use as a work sample, or use as a basis to write an article or two.
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    Thesis nightmare

    Having just completed one a few months back I can say YES they are a nightmare. However they can help you in the long run. I'm not sure if it helped me get a job but I proved to myself grad school isn't for me.

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    I did an undergrad thesis- although it is a lot of hard work and you wonder why in hell you would do it at the time, im really glad i did it- the skills you obtain through completing one definately have helped in my work
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    While I think a thesis is more 'rigorous', you're also opening yourself up to writing a bad thesis and then having graduate admissions officers reading it. I'd rather have them read an 'A' on a transcript than an undergraduate thesis. That's the practical reality. The standards for grading an undergraduate paper are different than for a thesis or professional paper, so you're essentially trying to impress with your first shot.

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    Didn't have an option. A thesis was required for my undergrad degree. Didn't hurt that I won an award for it though, and I believe it made my degree stand out a bit more when I was looking for that first job.
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    Write the thesis

    Yes, they're a huge pain & yes, it was incredibly stressful & yes, I had a very mean advisor who decided ONE MONTH before the thesis was due that she didn't want to be my advisor anymore & I needed to find a new one...BUT

    On every grad school application I have submitted not only can I say that I did original research but that I'm published. Believe me, no admissions committee is going to want to read the whole thing, so if you have to submit a writing sample you can pick the part you want or you can pick a paper you did well on instead.

    If you're burnt out on school, then take a year off or two between undergrad & grad. I'm returning after five years out & not only can I also list all my "practical" experience on resumes & apps but I'm ready to go back too.

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    Sorry, no opinion here.

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    I realize this is an old thread, but reviving in case other undergrad seniors right now are thinking about it.

    I did one for my honors program (majored in planning in undergrad) and it was a mess because I did it while studying abroad in a country that is very very very different from the US. I had absolutely zero idea what I was doing. If you can get clear structure and guidance from from your professor and have a great work flow, go for it. If, on the other hand, you have no idea how to do research, it will be a very slow and arduous process and might not be more meaningful than courses. It did help me with my thesis for grad school though, but there was still a lot of learning haha.

    Just saying, know what you're getting into. It's a great feeling once it's done because it's something that's uniquely yours, but the decision is really a tossup because our field doesn't teach undergrads how to do research or expect them to do it (unlike psychology or the sciences). You just get thrown in and you have to take a lot of initiative. Which can also be a good thing too

    Tips:
    1. Make sure it's a topic you are really really passionate about. You will be working on it for a while (likely maybe even after graduation).
    2. Make sure it's a clear, specific subset of a larger topic. Don't try to tackle the world.
    3. Read or skim The Craft of Research. Excellent book.
    4. Set your expectations of the audience. Do you eventually want to try and publish it, or are you filling some university requirement, or is it just for your own growth? If the first one, make sure to have the format down pat in the beginning rather than trying to rewrite it according to academic journal format later on. The process is agonizing, but you do learn a lot.
    5. Find ways to present - my school had something called "Research at the Capitol" where 30 undergrads from all over campus got selected to present their poster at the state capitol for policymakers. Anticipate submitting a poster to either the local APA conference or national one. Present to your peers, or some group on campus. It's a really great way to learn how to translate a formal research document into a visual and dynamic PowerPoint presentation.
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