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    Cyburbian Big Owl's avatar
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    Cyburbia mentioned in APA's Planning

    Kudo's to whoever sent the letter to the editor about the role that Cyburbia plays in planning profession. The letter writer suggested that Cyburbia should be mentioned in the online article and they acknowledge that the have, although i haven't verified it.

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    My kudos and sincere thanks too!

    In the online article, only a link was added on the APA site. Otherwise, the article text remain unchanged. Looking at the site logs, nobody has visited Cyburbia through that link. I appreciate that they printed the letter, but there was no real correction or acknowledgment that Cyburbia was a rather glaring omission from the article.

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    The letter metions Cyburbia 3 times and recognizes DAN and the MODS with
    diligent in its management of forums and in keeping spammers and other saboteurs at bay
    From the letter -
    Please consider, at the very least, adding a link to Cyburbia.org to the online version of this article
    That is all they did, the very least.
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    I'm sure *whoever* wrote that letter appreciates your thanks.

    We all know Dan, Mods and the rest of the gang deserve it, so its really just a question of getting your just deserts...
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    For those of you who are not APA members, here's the letter in June 2008 Planning magazine.

    What about Cyburbia? The topic of "Building Cities in the Virtual World" (April) is certainly meaningful in today's Web 2.0 society. As the professional planners that serve as volunteer administrators and moderators of Cyburbia.org, however, we are deeply disappointed that our planning community — the foundation of online collaboration and networking — did not merit a mention in the article.

    Cyburbia was established in 1994 as the Planning and Architecture Internet Resource Center at the University of Buffalo by then graduate student Dan Tasman. It is the Internet's oldest portal and social networking site for urban planners and others interested in cities and the built environment, and it brings together a wide variety of resources unmatched on any other planning-related website. Those resources include a very active message board, an image hosting gallery, syndicated feeds of hundreds of planning-related weblogs, and a selective directory of Internet resources relevant to planning and urbanism.

    Neglecting to mention Cyburbia in an article on Internet resources (while dedicating six paragraphs to Facebook and MySpace) is like writing an article on transit-oriented development and failing to mention Peter Calthorpe, or writing about congestion pricing and ignoring London. Particularly distressing was the article's emphasis on blogs, which lack a strong peer-to-peer connection and ability to drive discussion. In contrast, it is not unusual for a professional topic on Cyburbia to garner 100 responses.

    Cyburbia's participant-driven discussions allow planners to build professional and personal relationships without the limits of geography. A peer review section of the website, now under development, will allow planners to share comments on projects and documents. But Cyburbia's most unique attribute may be the opportunity it gives planners to develop personal relationships. Many Cyburbians get together regularly on a regional basis and at conferences.

    Cyburbia's Administrators and Moderators.....

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    Quote Originally posted by RichmondJake View post
    For those of you who are not APA members, here's the letter in June 2008 Planning magazine.
    And here's the letter before it got edited for space constraints....

    Dear Editor,

    This letter is in regards to the article entitled “Building Cities in the Virtual World”, which appeared in the April 2008 issue of Planning. While the topic is certainly meaningful in today’s Web 2.0 society, the roots of online planning collaboration and networking were conspicuously absent. We, the professional planners that serve volunteer administrators and moderators of Cyburbia.org, were deeply disappointed that the planning community of Cyburbia did not merit a mention in the article. While the owner of Cyburbia, Dan Tasman, AICP, is listed as a signer, this letter was initiated without his knowledge.

    Cyburbia, established in 1994as the Planning and Architecture Internet Resource Center at the University of Buffalo by then graduate student Dan Tasman, AICP, is the Internet's oldest portal and social networking site for urban planners and others interested in cities and the built environment. Cyburbia has evolved through the collaborative effort of several professional planners from a basic list of planning and architecture links to a dynamic internet resource, bringing together a wide variety of resources unmatched on any other planning related website. Cyburbia includes a very active message board (almost 400,000 messages to date), an image hosting gallery, syndicated feeds of hundreds of planning-related weblogs, and a selective directory of Internet resources relevant to planning and urbanism. It is not just another Internet Bulletin Board; as of the date of this letter, when you type “urban planning” into Google, the fourth hit is Cyburbia, just after a Wikipedia article, the APA website, and UCLA School of Public Affairs. Neglecting to mention Cyburbia is similar to writing an article on transit-oriented development and failing to mention Peter Calthorpe, akin to writing an article on congestion pricing and failing to discuss London or writing about New Urbanism and ignoring the contributions of Andres Duany.

    Cyburbia differentiates itself from other planning sites by its participant-driven discussion culture, in contrast to blog response systems. This characteristic allows planners to build professional and personal relationships without the limits of geography. Through Cyburbia, planners are no longer forced to restrict their peer relationships to their immediate region; a planner in Wyoming can ask a question and receive responses from Florida, Kansas, Vermont, Texas, and even Great Britain and New Zealand, among other locales. As a result, Cyburbia allows ideas to flow more freely between planners and furthers the profession not unlike a 365 planning conference. Several Cyburbians have hired one another, whether as subconsultants for a project, client-consultant relationships, or as coworkers at an employer. A special peer review section of the website is under development, which will allow planners to share projects and documents in order to gain feedback. Perhaps Cyburbia’s most unique attribute is the personal relationships built between planners. Many members periodically get together on a regional basis and at conferences for face-to-face interaction. The social fabric of Cyburbia has even resulted in two marriages between Cyburbians.

    Despite this, the authors of the article neglected to mention Cyburbia while dedicating six paragraphs to Facebook and MySpace, where planning is little more than a small interest group among many others. The author also managed to find space to plug the website he founded, which Cyburbia assisted with some elements of its start-up. While these sites may be useful for cities in public outreach, they lack the professional and personal interaction between fellow planners that so many crave. Particularly distressing was the emphasis on blogs, which lack a strong peer-to-peer connection and ability to drive discussion. In contrast, it is not unusual for a professional topic on Cyburbia to garner 100 responses.

    We hope that Planning will consider a small follow-up article in the May issue and a modification to the online April edition to include a link to Cyburbia.org. We believe that if the editorial team from Planning will visit Cyburbia, they will see for themselves the great resources available to planners world-wide.

    Kind Regards,

    The Administrators and Moderators of Cyburbia
    "Growth is inevitable and desirable, but destruction of community character is not. The question is not whether your part of the world is going to change. The question is how." -- Edward T. McMahon, The Conservation Fund

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    Yes, once again the "power structure" ignores Cyburbia or simply doesn't do it's homework. Cyburbia is the Rodney Dangerfield of planning website and that's what makes it so lovable. Good job MODS.
    "And all this terrible change had come about because he had ceased to believe himself and had taken to believing others. " - Leo Tolstoy

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