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    Chairman of the bored Maister's avatar
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    We’ve Heard it All Before

    They say no art is truly original and that every artist and art form is somehow influenced by previous forms, works, and artists. Music is no exception and one could construct a ‘family tree’ with trunks, branches and twigs for any musical style in existence. Diversity and newness in music, therefore, is not unlike DNA, comprised of relatively simple components but enormously complex in its structure and interplay.

    Thanks to technology, we live in a Golden Age of music. Never before have so many people had so much access and exposure to so many different types of music. I’d wager more fusions/mixtures of styles have occurred in the last 100 years than in the preceding 10,000 years combined! Some, like folk-rock, seem to go together like peanut butter and jelly while other permutations seem downright unnatural, yet in their own odd ways quite enjoyable. Country-punk? Trip-hop? I’m sure there are many others you could name.

    The following is a very incomplete list of musical styles. What is the strangest fusion of two styles you can come up with? Better yet, is anyone aware of someone ever attempting such a fusion? Feel free to add any musical styles not listed.
    Western
    Hawaiian
    Dance Pop
    Old School
    Hip Hop
    Children’s
    Gansta Rap
    Funk
    Musicals
    Metal
    Grunge
    Techno
    House
    Industrial
    Progressive
    World Beat
    Gospel
    Christian Contemporary
    Opera
    Blues
    Reggae
    Delta Blues
    Latin
    Ska
    Punk
    Bluegrass
    “Country”
    Gregorian Chant
    Trance
    Rockabilly
    Folk
    Celtic
    Alternative
    New Age
    Dixieland
    Cool
    Bebop
    Soul
    R&B
    Acid Rock
    Swing
    Fusion
    Sea Chanty
    Barbershop Quartet
    Klezmer
    Baroque
    Military March

    What I'd like to see popularized some day is Sea Chanty-Hip hop. The videos alone would be worth the price of creation! Pirate Rap lives!!!

    Yeah yeah I brazenly stole this thread idea from a remark zman made on Random Thoughts....but like I said earlier nothing is truly original.
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    Big Band

    (you know, Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, Glenn Miller...)

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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    What is the strangest fusion of two styles you can come up with? Better yet, is anyone aware of someone ever attempting such a fusion?
    Listen to Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. Especially the Live at the Quick album. I'm pretty sure that they have blended all those styles at some point. Live at the Quick is especially notable for Rock, Funk, Blue Grass/New Grass, Jazz, Indian Tabla, Tuvan Throat Singing, and some very Klezmer-like sound. And that's just what I recall without going back to listen again.
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    I'd like to see Gansta Rap - Gregorian Chant, myself...
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    I taught a middle school music class one year and part of the time we focused on musical styles. In researching the hip-hop lesson, I wanted to provide some interesting international examples to illustrate how this form has become a global phenomenon.

    The strangest thing I found? Icelandic hip-hop.
    The coolest? South African Hip-hop (Hottentot-hop Bantu 1-2)
    What I really enjoyed was going back to the roots of hip hop with artists like Afrika Bambaata, Run DMC, Kurtis Blow, etc. Great, great stuff. And so innocent by today's standards.

    Other styles (not necessarily reflective of my tastes...)
    Afro-pop
    Afro-folk (traditional African music, that is)
    Afro-Celtic
    Acid House
    Acid Jazz
    Throat Singing
    Emo
    Dub
    Plena
    Bomba
    Salsa
    Samba
    Cha-cha
    Mbalax
    Mbaqanga
    Corridos
    Carnatic
    Neo-traditional Punk-hop revival (ok, I made that one up...)

    A friend of mine played in a New Grass group called...wait for it...Butt Grass.

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    Representing the "rock" spectrum:
    Hard rock
    Arena rock
    Pop metal
    Glam rock
    Death metal
    Thrash metal
    Nu metal
    Blues rock
    Soft rock
    Country rock
    Alternative rock
    Christian rock
    Psychidelic rock
    Progressive rock
    Rockabilly
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    ambient
    trance
    drum n' bass
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    My vote is for Gangsta-Polka. Kick in the accordion.....

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    Maister you have too much time on your hands! I maybe listen to music an hour a month. classic rock and don't give a damn about anything else... unless the kid next door is broadcasting country like he was this evening.... ... then I'm countng the minutes until I can call the cops.

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    What?? No Ska?

    I am constantly amazed at both the avaiilability of good music, yet the mediocrity found on the mega-chain domintated radio.
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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    Ska
    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    What?? No Ska?
    But Detroit Planner it was listed.
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    Hawiian-Grunge- Don Ho meets Eddie Vedder- Jeremy on the Big Island
    Runner-up: Hawiian Punk- The Clash in Paradise-Oahu Calling
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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    What I'd like to see popularized some day is Sea Chanty-Hip hop. The videos alone would be worth the price of creation! Pirate Rap lives!!!
    While it might not be exactly Sea Chanty Hip-Hop, Canadian rapper Buck 65 has some great raps that deal with topics like old farm hands.

    Another interesting fusion of musical styles that I will add is "nerdcore". Think, "Stephen Hawking meets Weird Al meets Jay-Z." With songs about hot goth girls, bridge architecture, and Star Wars sexual fantasies, MC Frontalot is the leader in this genre (OK, he may be the only artist in this genre).
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    It might sound a little strange but I would bet anything it's been done - metal-reggae! Can't you just hear "Iron Man" performed by Bob Marley?
    People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor

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    I will add to the mix:

    Punk-Funk- (I believe the chilli peppers got this rolling with the help of Gang of Four)
    Goth
    Indie
    Lo-Fi
    Pyscho-Billy (reverend horton heat, Jesus Lizard and I believe the cramps brought this sub genre to live)
    StonerRock (Monster Magnet)
    PowerPop
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