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    Cyburbian fringe's avatar
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    "Header curb" and berm over existing asphalt

    Label this one Goofy design.

    A fixit for an overzealous and out of bounds contractor who pushed out the planned planted buffers to make more parking calls for installing "header curb" with weeps over existing parking spaces.

    This idea bears the stamp of a landscape architect.

    I called their office for more detail on how to accomplish the planting of shade trees in such a location.

    They said they would come up with something.

    Anyone hear of a similar approach?

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    header curbs etc

    Forgot to include a salient detail. Between the proposed header and the existing curb, the idea is to bring in soil to make a berm three feet high, in which plants are to be inserted.

    My call to the designer asked for guidance on how to accomplish planting on top of asphalt, particularly for the red maples called out.

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    I think that any reasonable arborist will agree the extra pavement has to be removed.

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    Wow.

    As a landscape architect, I'm insulted.

    Who spec'd this? If you don't want to post the name, please pm me....

    The asphalt needs to be removed, and the contractor who exceeded his plans should pay for it.

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    Off-topic:
    Does anyone else have "berm over existing asphalt" going through their head like "bridge over troubled waters"?

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    Quote Originally posted by boiker View post
    I think that any reasonable arborist will agree the extra pavement has to be removed.
    That shows how much you know about landscape architecture for scumbag property owners (LASPO)!

    With the asphalt in place it will be possible to let the trees die in 1-2 years. Then the best thing to do will be to remove the berm where nothing will grow anyway, and have a nice piece of black asphalt. The city likely will not follow up. The property owner will get what he wants.

    I have encountered something like this before, although they did not propose to plant trees on it, just grass. My favorite was the LA who showed maples planted one foot from the top of an eight foot retaining wall.
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    Quote Originally posted by fringe View post
    Label this one Goofy design.

    [snip]

    Anyone hear of a similar approach?
    Yes, any time someone is trying to get away with something and hopes the city won't follow up.

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    This idea bears the stamp of a landscape architect.
    Wow!!!

    Your statement bears the stamp of a.............you might think twice about making a blanket insult.

    Craig A Raines
    Landscape Architect #4082
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    header curb etc

    Craig,

    My post did not intend to insult anyone.

    I too am trying to find sanity in an insane place.

    I thought this forum would maybe shed some light on how professionals in this area find their way through the jungle.

    I am aware that the leap from design to reality is sometimes a long one.

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    Quote Originally posted by craines View post
    Wow!!!

    Your statement bears the stamp of a.............you might think twice about making a blanket insult.

    Craig A Raines
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    I could be wrong but I don't think that sentence was meant as a blanket insult. I think it was meant to say that the idea (which seems outrageous) was actually stamped by someone who is a Landscape Architect. There are hacks in all fields (hack planners are common) and I think the intent was to say "Isn't it crazy that someone who maintains their license in LA actually was willing to stamp this idea?"

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    Quote Originally posted by Masswich View post
    I could be wrong but I don't think that sentence was meant as a blanket insult. I think it was meant to say that the idea (which seems outrageous) was actually stamped by someone who is a Landscape Architect. There are hacks in all fields (hack planners are common) and I think the intent was to say "Isn't it crazy that someone who maintains their license in LA actually was willing to stamp this idea?"
    This is how I read the comment as well.

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    It is interesting that the landscape architects took it as a insult.............you gotta remember is that the public perception of a landscape architect is often that of a glorified gardener............so we at times can get a bit defensive

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