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    Side-jobs for planners

    So after posting and doing some thinking about current salaries in planning, I was wondering if anyone does anything on the side to make a little extra cash. I know some people do work with cell towers or real estate. I am wondering: What other type of jobs have you guys gone into on the side? Is the extra cash worth the time? Has it interfered with your day job?

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    Our personnel policy specifically prohibits moonlighting.

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    Sketchup illustration. No conflicts of interest, although it is a direct competitor.

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    I worked with someone who did weekends only at the mall (no conflict), and someone else that had a joint business with her daughter doing sewing and tailor-made items (no conflict).
    Most places I've worked have allowed other employment, but under strict guidelines: planner job must be the priority, can not conflict in terms of time, employer, etc, and also must be approved by supervisor (and sometimes dept. head). I've never tested the system as to what kind of job would be in conflict, but I'm sure others have.
    With the market decline and slowdowns at work, I foresee full-time planners needing a part-time job to keep up. In my case, I have two dogs to feed and take care of, so if I have to work at the mall to afford kibble, I will. But that will make for one tired Salmissra, for sure.
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    Quote Originally posted by CubbieBlue View post
    ... I know some people do work with cell towers or real estate. ...
    My cell tower gig is full-time. (At least they think that it is. Can't pretend that I'm overworked, but then I don't attend every zoning meeting nor every site walk.) In my view, it would be difficult to juggle a zoning specialist job while working F/T in any other capacity; the clients are demanding, not understanding. And they tend to schedule hours-long conference calls or deployment meetings with required attendance/participation. Even at my big-city planning job, which was 35 hours/week, combining with another cell tower zoning gig would have been impossible.

    My moonlighting gig, 18 years now, has been calling square dances. It's nice. Having a cell phone helps; I sometimes take or make calls during the day to sell a gig or reassure a client. I make fewer personal calls than anyone else I've ever worked with.

    I'm about to start teaching (again) adult ed classes in traffic-safe cycling. Will see how that goes in terms of lucrativeness...it would be weekends only.

    At a rally on Saturday I saw a great opportunity for almost anyone local: a rolling "lemonade stand" with cold bottled drinks. Surprised that no entrepreneurs have come up with this idea. (During the Gerald Ford funeral events a couple years back, people were standing outside downtown for hours, in January. Someone selling earmuffs, gloves, or hot drinks could have cleaned up.) I used to attend cycling events, and make a fortune selling dry socks or gloves to participants; maybe I just have an eye for these opportunities.

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    I do have a partime time at the mall. I dont think folding clothes is a conflict of interest, however to get approval, i had to construct a letter and have my part-time employment approved by my department head and city manager. I assured the department head that this part time gig would in no way affect my performance or my availiblity to attend night meetings at my full time. But yes with the economy down and a slow work load, a part time job is a way to pass the time, at least for me. Yes it does drain a lot out of you.

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    Over the years I have had many part time jobs including working in other departments for the same city,(this would be accomplished by using vacation time or weekends or nights) but have always had this approved prior to taking the part time job. After moving into top management this has been limited to teaching a class or volunteering (I had one city put in my contract that if I volunteered for anything I would be terminated-didnt understand why but at least they were up front about it) Most of the volunteering has been through organizations like Rotary, Optomists, Boys and Girls Clubs of America etc that assist youths - mainly scholarships or coaching sports. Currently do a lot of volunteer work (mostly youths and seniors) and teach driver training part time.

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    Quote Originally posted by Gedunker View post
    Our personnel policy specifically prohibits moonlighting.
    I second that...
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    From my fair County's Personnel Policy

    Section 2.90.090 Outside employment.
    An employee may hold a job with another organization as long as he or she satisfactorily performs his or her job responsibilities with the County. All employees will be judged by the same performance standards and will be subject to the employer's scheduling demands, regardless of any existing outside work requirements.

    If the County determines that an employee's outside work interferes with performance or ability to meet the requirements of the employee's position with the County, as it is modified from time to time, the employee may be asked to terminate the outside employment if he or she wishes to remain employed with the County.

    Outside employment will present a conflict of interest if it has an actual or potential adverse impact on the County. County employees are encouraged to file a conflict of interest statement with the County Clerk, State Board of Accounts and Auditor whenever an employee's outside business activities are directly or indirectly linked to the County in a business relationship such as vendor, supplier, contractor or independent subcontractor.
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    Start-up real estate development company....and yes it's the best time to start....don't let them fool you.

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    Be a writer

    While I worked as a planner writing to magazines had to be approved by the department. Every article written had be passed by the department which was putting a hold on my creative outlet Quoting my name as a planner working with so-and-so is strictly prohibited.
    Not very encouraging for writers but worth it. They do pay well if yours in published.

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    I am toying with the idea of judging speech competitions (either at the high school or college levels). I competed in speech in high school and college and had the opportunity to judge a few high school meets when I was competing in college. They are almost always held on the weekends, you can come in jeans, listen to some speeches, write down critiques, and get paid $100.00 for a couple of hours of work (not a bad job ). I saved all my awards and critiques from hs/college and might slap together a "speech" resume to send to the nearby colleges and high schools.
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    You could flip houses. Historical preservation. Property is always there, its the American Dream. Risky, but good side income. 3-4 houses a year and you can double or triple your current salary. Im surprised noone else has mentioned this. Although I am not a planner....yet.

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    Quote Originally posted by Jakers View post
    You could flip houses. Historical preservation. Property is always there, its the American Dream. Risky, but good side income. 3-4 houses a year and you can double or triple your current salary. Im surprised noone else has mentioned this. Although I am not a planner....yet.
    I do hope this is sarcasm. No way in heck am I going to be investing anymore into real estate for quite a while (well unless I can unload this house and move to a tiny condo).
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    I've had 2 side jobs durnig my planning career. The first was a waiter at a decent restaurant and did it for 5 months so I could gut/remodel the kitchen in my house. The second was a high school and college soccer referee which paid good money (but you did get bitched at alot even though I was one of the better refs out there - as determed by a coaches ranking annual grading). I did that gig for about 10 years and you need to really know the game.
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    Bump thanks to the MLM thread

    Must be other ways to make a little extra cash besides those already cited, and "drinking the acai berry Kool-aid" as Dan stated.

    I am going to start playing music on the street (busking) soon.

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    In order to save some dough for my wife's maternity leave, I may start up on the computerization of my Dad's company (he still writes invoices by hand) and Dad may have some brush mowing and irrigation work to do. Due to all the rain/hail/tornadoes we have been getting round here, landscapers are behind in their work.
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    I used to have a weekend job as a tobacconist to support my smoking habit, but it started cutting into family time with the full time job. In my case, the city hired me knowing I had that side job (in a different city) and had no conflict.

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    I have a sideline job. Whenever some corporation flies in a female exec who is looking for some extracurricular activities, they call me - Otterpop.

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    I'm thinking about tapping my MPA a bit as an instructor for the University of Phoenix. It's not huge money and I may feel a little dirty, but it will pay for a decent vacation every year with relatively low amounts of time commitment.

    "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

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    Here is an Headline and Article for this thread:

    From Decatur’s city planner to professional dancer
    http://www.ajc.com/traffic/content/m...al_dancer.html

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    maintains three separate calendars to ensure her work, artistic and personal wires don’t get crossed —
    insists a city planner who dances (or vice-versa) is not such an oddball combination.
    Oddball
    Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
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    Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
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    Broke parts take a little longer, though.
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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    I have a sideline job. Whenever some corporation flies in a female exec who is looking for some extracurricular activities, they call me - Otterpop.

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    hahahaha, that was quite funny.

    I think it would be fun to get a part-time job just to meet new people, but I live in a small town and there really aint much around. So I think I'll just enjoy my free time until I move somewhere more exciting.

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    Adjunct Professor for a University. I teach Geography to the ute's of America. I teach two classes in the evening, two days a week. While the amount of time spent in the classroom is minimal, the "behind-the-scenes" work (preparation for lecture, research, grading, tracking students) that goes into it is taxing. However, now that I have my curriculum established (presentations, homework, tests, syllabus) my weekends are chill save for a few hours on Sunday when I prepare for the upcoming week and update student progress. Great part-time gig that pays well and compliments my efforts here at the County.

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    Quote Originally posted by otterpop View post
    I have a sideline job. Whenever some corporation flies in a female exec who is looking for some extracurricular activities, they call me - Otterpop.

    Real funny, now we know your real name! Hey you're not a member of APA what gives?
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