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    Attention Grammar Experts

    Should this say "on", or "in" the application....


    The licensee has made fraudulent statements on the application for the license.
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    Quote Originally posted by giff57 View post
    Should this say "on", or "in" the application....


    The licensee has made fraudulent statements on the application for the license.
    EIther are o.k. but you shouldn't refer to someone as the "licensee" before the license has been granted. If the license was previously granted, it should say "The licensee had". Bet you're glad you asked? I won't mention that grammar is spelled with two "M's". Damn. Guess it's too late now.
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    Does spelling count?

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    Sheesh............

    Thanks I think
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    The application is a form that is written on, right? So, I would go with "on".

    [dead horse]Oh, and grammar.[/dead horse]

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    Quote Originally posted by mendelman View post
    The application is a form that is written on, right? So, I would go with "on".

    [dead horse]Oh, and grammar.[/dead horse]


    [herd of dead horses]The fradulent statements are contained within the form of the application, right? So, you could go with "in". [/herd of dead horses]
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    "The applicant..."

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    Quote Originally posted by ofos View post
    EIther are o.k. but you shouldn't refer to someone as the "licensee" before the license has been granted.
    Maybe the license was already granted. giff57, what say you?

    Oh, yeah:

    ---> "in the application" ---> when it's an actual application for a university, job, license, etc. Usually precedes the word "for".

    --->"on the application" ---> when "application" is a synonym for the gerund, "applying". Usually precedes the word "of".

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    Quote Originally posted by Seana View post
    when "application" is a synonym for the gerund,
    Isn't a gerund a cross between a gerbil and a dachshund?
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    Ahhh.....

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    Quote Originally posted by ofos View post
    Isn't a gerund a cross between a gerbil and a dachshund?
    No, Gerund was that former fat guy on all those Subway commercials.

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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    No, Gerund was that former fat guy on all those Subway commercials.
    [ackkk]I think his gramper was a gerbil and his gramar was a dachshund. [/ackkk]
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    Quote Originally posted by The One View post
    [glue from the head of the dead horse]All of you are a bunch of squares[glue from the head of the dead horse]
    Better square than sextagon.

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    Quote Originally posted by Seana View post
    Maybe the license was already granted. giff57, what say you?

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    Could be either way, it is in a clause for denial or revocation of a license. I changed it to "applicant or licensee".
    “As soon as public service ceases to be the chief business of the citizens, and they would rather serve with their money than with their persons, the State is not far from its fall”
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    Now wasn't that easy with just a little help from your friends? Feel free to consult with us at any time. You'll get highly questionable answers and we'll all be highly amused by ourselves. I just crack myself up!
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    Quote Originally posted by ofos View post
    Isn't a gerund a cross between a gerbil and a dachshund?
    You're thinking of a dachsbil.

    Gerund is a contracted form of "going on an errand." Ex. I'm gerunding to the store for some milk. Need anything?
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    Quote Originally posted by wahday View post
    You're thinking of a dachsbil.

    Gerund is a contracted form of "going on an errand." Ex. I'm gerunding to the store for some milk. Need anything?
    Isn't it the overpriced jewelry store where all the girls say "He went to Gerunds"

    and isn't a dachsbil a type of platypus?
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    Quote Originally posted by wahday View post
    You're thinking of a dachsbil.

    Gerund is a contracted form of "going on an errand." Ex. I'm gerunding to the store for some milk. Need anything?
    You're getting closer. The problem is that gerund is really a Yiddish word. When you've tried to gefix some gefilte fish for Seder and it doesn't come out right, you've gerund it.
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    Since you people will not let this thread die a peaceful death, I edited my spelling error in the op.
    “As soon as public service ceases to be the chief business of the citizens, and they would rather serve with their money than with their persons, the State is not far from its fall”
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    Ok, is it cul-de-sacs or culs-de-sac?
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    Dead End

    The authoritative Wikipedia, source of all truth and some half-truth, had this to say:
    A cul-de-sac (plural: culs-de-sac), close, or court (American and Australian English) is a dead-end street with only one inlet/outlet.
    They are not typically found in areas where the land use is agricultural (my addition).
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    Or the dreaded.....

    Quote Originally posted by Seana View post
    Better square than sextagon.
    No Doubt, it could always be worse, we could be a:

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    Quote Originally posted by ofos View post
    You're getting closer. The problem is that gerund is really a Yiddish word. When you've tried to gefix some gefilte fish for Seder and it doesn't come out right, you've gerund it.
    Oy gevalt! Gerund gefilte is definitely not geshmak. It'll give you the greps, for G_d's sake!
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    How often do you see application's that have apostrophe's in all of their plural's?



    Also, similar to 'culs-de-sac', the proper plural of 'right-of-way' is 'rights-of-way'.

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    Quote Originally posted by The One View post
    No Doubt, it could always be worse, we could be a:

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    Oyyyy..... pardon megagon.

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