The "bog box" stores can be used as storage places for the community. They could also be used as amusement parks. Or markets.
Tellingly, the Stanford Mall sees Santana Row ( a new urbanist outdoor mall about 15 mikes away in San Jose as it's competition, not the college stuff in Berkeley. Though I can say from personal experience that the mall attracts lots Stanford students.
Actually, having stopped by the mall last summer, it's lost its sparkle. Downtown Palo Alto is a much more happening place.
From what I can see this is the list of national chains in downtown Palo Alto and other small city downtowns:
Santa Cruz has these:
Sur La Table
Crate and Barrel Outlet Store
San Luis Obispo:
Abercrombie and Fitch
Whole Foods (coming soon)
Sak's Fifth Avenue
Barnes N Nobles
My list could use some help. Also, downtown San Luis Obispo is adding more with the Chinatown project.
Last edited by urban19; 26 Feb 2011 at 11:26 PM.
And what does this have to do with the downtown center? Wasn't the point of this thread was for you to ask questions and answer your question about the downtown center?
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You've forgot Subway. I have seen a lot of Subways in small downtowns. People love having $5 foot longs. Oh and you forgot people and offices, a downtown needs those too! and you forgot municipal buildings, nearly every small downtown I've been to has at least a couple.
In downtown Detroit there are several places where you can get IDs made that require no documentation. Kids often stop there on thier way to Canada where the drinking age is only 19. Thieves also find them handy when they steal a wallet that is full of credit cards. Maybe SLO could use some of those?
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Pulling over to the side of the road to let the EMT and fire engines to attend the train wreck.
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Chains are the bane of our existence - anywhere America is not good planning practice
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Ahem, folks. I already derailed the train wreck in the Cities and Places subforum. Let's get on topic here and try to leave this one open. Those that argue the youngster won't listen should remember that trying to teach a pig to sing wastes your own time and annoys the pig. Capisce?
Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
And like the moderator said I am young and haven't had much experience with city planning work and I am in no position to learn or understand much. When I am at Cal Poly SLO and learning some things, then it might be different in how I comprehend. In the mean time, try to respect my viewpoints and I will in return respect you back.
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Anyways, seeing a small retail center built in downtowns are unusual. Usually it's a full-on mall or lifestyle center. Yet, this center has brought more mall chains to the city.
The downtown has attracted a good variety of national chains thus there is no need for a mall to be in the city. Some will still be against the national chains being in the city though.
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