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    Cyburbian Planit's avatar
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    New EPA report - "Essential smart growth fixes for urban & duburban zoning codes"

    Found this new EPA report titled "Essential Smart Growth Fixes for Urban & Suburban Zoning Codes"

    http://www.epa.gov/smartgrowth/pdf/2...tial_fixes.pdf

    Have flipped through it (and will probably read most of it this weekend while it rains) but from what I've seen, it looks pretty good.
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    Interesting. Never heard the term "Devil's Density" before. Such a neutral, non-judgemental term.

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    Quote Originally posted by JimPlans View post
    Interesting. Never heard the term "Devil's Density" before. Such a neutral, non-judgemental term.
    And don't foget its partner . . . Satan's Setbacks.

    The description of Devil's Density sounds like 90% of the built environment - anywhere from 1 unit per 10,000SF to 1 unit per 20 acres.

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    When did the EPA get involved in land use planning?

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    Shh.....

    Quote Originally posted by hilldweller View post
    When did the EPA get involved in land use planning?
    They are watching us........please don't make them angry..........
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    Quote Originally posted by hilldweller View post
    When did the EPA get involved in land use planning?
    They have had a "smart growth" division for years.
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    My city seems to be targeted specifically. I've been saying for years that the PUD thing is pointless if you can already do it with the codes that are in place, yet most of the city is done through a PUD.
    I'm a bit confused on the whole "devil's density". 20-40/acre to 2-4/acre is a big range. I consider most subdivisions to be a 3-4/acre average for a suburb. It's why so many people move to the edge of town, they don't want 6+/acre. There must be a little more to it - I need to read the whole thing this weekend. Also, if there is a devil's density, then there must be a God's density. What is it?
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    Hmmm.....

    God's density might be something like....

    1 unit per MONTANA

    or

    1 unit per ALASKA

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