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Poll results: What do you think the outcome of tomorrow's presidential election will be?

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  • Obama wins electoral and popular vote

    20 76.92%
  • Romney wins electoral and popular vote

    2 7.69%
  • Gary Johnson wins electoral and popular vote :thumb:

    0 0%
  • Obama wins electoral vote, Romney wins popular vote

    4 15.38%
  • Romney wins electoral vote, Obama wins popular vote

    0 0%
  • Obama and Romney tie in the electoral vote

    0 0%
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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    My caller ID shows we've been averaging about four political-robo-calls a day (seems to be worst on Sundays).
    FOUR?!?!?! We haven't gotten as few as four in a day since June. I can see Air Force One flying in once a week now, 10 more robocalls and surveys in its wake.

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    Early Voting done so I can just sit back and observe from here on out.
    Observe Rmoney practicing for his two SCOTUS puppets:

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    In response to a well articulated and issue-specific endorsement of Obama by Colin powell, the Romney campaign says Powell is only endorsing him because they are the same color. What a bunch of fucking assholes.
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    Quote Originally posted by imaplanner View post
    In response to a well articulated and issue-specific endorsement of Obama by Colin powell, the Romney campaign says Powell is only endorsing him because they are the same color. What a bunch of fucking assholes.
    Hey, they need turnout. Whatever dog whistle works. Remember: Sununu also a couple weeks ago said The Kenyan was lazy, while Krauthammer said the food-stamp president was dumb. Others are wondering why more young white women aren't in Barry's stable, and his mom was in porn. All of a piece - if he gets down in the mud with them he's angry and uppity and the fake outrage on Faux "News" is turned up to 11.
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    I was in Columbus Ohio over the weekend and was surprised how few campaign signs people had out. Given that it is "THE" battleground state, I thought it would look like a 1970's California highway with all the signs.
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    I was in Columbus Ohio over the weekend and was surprised how few campaign signs people had out. Given that it is "THE" battleground state, I thought it would look like a 1970's California highway with all the signs.
    I, too, have been surprised as how few signs are out this year... more billboard, tv, and newspaper ads, but less yard junk. Maybe the planning nazi's are winning?
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    This is funny....
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    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...202803013.html

    Former FEMA director Michael Brown, who was heavily criticized for the agency's failure to prepare for Hurricane Katrina, has criticized President Obama for responding to Hurricane Sandy too early.
    Yea if there is one thing that a guy who failed miserably at handling Katrina should do it is get involved in the political machine throwing stones at the President. Too soon huh? Interesting approach I guess...
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    I hear that many of the polling locations along the east coast will need to be moved because of storm damage and that one week from today, we might not know who won those states.
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    I hear that many of the polling locations along the east coast will need to be moved because of storm damage and that one week from today, we might not know who won those states.
    Why am I seeing 2000 all over again? It won't be hanging chads, but something.
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    Quote Originally posted by btrage View post
    Why am I seeing 2000 all over again? It won't be hanging chads, but something.
    Unless it is a total blow out, I agree that there is a good chance that we will see 2000 again. Hopefully with the same results for the POTUS election.
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    Unless it is a total blow out, I agree that there is a good chance that we will see 2000 again. Hopefully with the same results for the POTUS election.
    For the sake of our political discourse, I might rather prefer that my chosen candidate lose in a landslide, than endure a 2000-type fiasco with my candidate winning.

    If something like 2000 happens again, regardless of who wins, I can't imagine what the gridlock will be like on Capitol Hill, with both sides claiming "victory" or a "mandate".
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    I keep getting the indication that the actual results won't be as close as the polls are now. Those get out to vote efforts that campaigns run can easily add two points to a candidate's total. It seems like Obama is currently the slight favorite in the polls plus he has a superior get out to vote operation compared to Romney. Of course Romney's campaign will dispute both points publicly but it is increasingly sounding like Obama's ground campaign will make a significant difference in this election. Republicans may benefit from higher enthusiasm but there's fewer of them.

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    Quote Originally posted by Blide View post
    It seems like Obama is currently the slight favorite in the polls plus he has a superior get out to vote operation compared to Romney.
    Want to stop spewing "facts" without being able to back them up? Through polls taken as off 10/29 - Romney leads in 5, Obama in 4, and they are tied in 1. All but one are within the statistical margin of error.
    Obama is also down 2.9% over where he was Oct 31 four years ago against McCain. This election is also tracking tighter than Bush/Kerry in 2000.
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    I hear that many of the polling locations along the east coast will need to be moved because of storm damage and that one week from today, we might not know who won those states.
    I wouldn't be surprised if some of the locations are moved or if they need to delay or extend voting in some precincts or states but is there really going to be a question as to which candidate is going to win the electoral votes from DE, NJ, NY, MD, WV, PA, or CT (Obama for all but WV)? Virginia is the only state affected that might be a toss-up and the damage wasn't nearly as bad there as in some of the other areas.

    Any delay in voting would probably be more problematic for the local and state elections much more so than for the presidential election.
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    Quote Originally posted by WSU MUP Student View post
    I wouldn't be surprised if some of the locations are moved or if they need to delay or extend voting in some precincts or states but is there really going to be a question as to which candidate is going to win the electoral votes from DE, NJ, NY, MD, WV, PA, or CT (Obama for all but WV)? Virginia is the only state affected that might be a toss-up and the damage wasn't nearly as bad there as in some of the other areas.

    Any delay in voting would probably be more problematic for the local and state elections much more so than for the presidential election.
    That's a very good point. I did not consider this.
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    Quote Originally posted by Tide View post
    Want to stop spewing "facts" without being able to back them up? Through polls taken as off 10/29 - Romney leads in 5, Obama in 4, and they are tied in 1. All but one are within the statistical margin of error.
    Obama is also down 2.9% over where he was Oct 31 four years ago against McCain. This election is also tracking tighter than Bush/Kerry in 2000.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1171.html
    Just going off of RCP averages. Their electoral map with no toss-ups has Obama winning 281 to 257. States like Colorado are going back and forth on it.

    Or you can go with any number election prediction model which at this point are largely polling aggregates such 538 or Princeton Election Consortium. Then there's the predictive markets such as Intrade or IEM that have Obama with a ~63% chance of winning.

    The race is no doubt close but Obama has more paths to victory than Romney does. We'll find out in a week who's right though. No matter the outcome, I'm looking forward to this being over.

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    Quote Originally posted by Tide View post
    Through polls taken as off 10/29 - Romney leads in 5, Obama in 4, and they are tied in 1. All but one are within the statistical margin of error.
    Obama is also down 2.9% over where he was Oct 31 four years ago against McCain. This election is also tracking tighter than Bush/Kerry in 2000.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1171.html
    It all comes down to the swing states of course, and there are at least 146 electoral votes as "toss-ups" according to that website. It appears Obama does have an easier path to 270 than Romney, but I agree that the election is going to be very tight. Also, the media narrative seems to be that "as goes Ohio goes the election", but I don't know how true this is.

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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    I agree that there is a good chance that we will see 2000 again. Hopefully with the same results for the POTUS election.
    This would be bad for any remaining scraps of democracy left in this country We don't need another fiasco like that. Although I suspect BHO will fight much, much harder against the vote stealing and rigging than Gore and Kerry did.

    Quote Originally posted by WSU MUP Student View post
    I wouldn't be surprised if some of the locations are moved or if they need to delay or extend voting in some precincts or states but is there really going to be a question as to which candidate is going to win the electoral votes from DE, NJ, NY, MD, WV, PA, or CT (Obama for all but WV)? Virginia is the only state affected that might be a toss-up and the damage wasn't nearly as bad there as in some of the other areas.

    Any delay in voting would probably be more problematic for the local and state elections much more so than for the presidential election.
    I think this is right. Likely why you saw Christie act the way he did (aside from personal reasons in 2016). Might be why we saw Cuomo make some of the statments against man-made climate change denial as well - denigrating the opponent rather than how Christie acted.
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    There are so many states that are within the margin of error that I don't think that there is any way to tell. I also think that there is a decent chance that Romney will take Michigan because Johnson is not on the ballot here.
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    There are so many states that are within the margin of error that I don't think that there is any way to tell. ..
    Which is why we must guard against Repub vote hacking in OH, like 2000 and '04, and also in WI and anywhere else that weasel Tagg is counting votes. I don't think there is anything to be done against voter disenfranchisement in FL, so that may be lost unless there is a backlash against Scott and his anti-democratic shenanigans.
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    Unless it is a total blow out, I agree that there is a good chance that we will see 2000 again. Hopefully with the same results for the POTUS election.
    Oh hey, great idea! Let's revisit one of the most divisive times in recent political history. Know what? Then perhaps the D's can take a page from the recent Republican cookbook and do a few of these items:

    - Scream loud and long, despite all evidence to the contrary, that Mitt Romney is Mexican.*
    - Claim he CANNOT be Christian because he's Mormon.
    - Have a Democratic leader say, "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Romney to be a one-term president."
    - Hold something like the debt ceiling hostage to get your way.
    - Threaten to filibuster everything.
    - Blame him for the crappy economy from day one. (What?! You didn't fix it over the week-end?)
    - Turn any good thing Romney does into something someone else did, a la Bin Laden.
    - Or just pretend it was a bad thing like saving the US auto industry. (Or FEMA responded too soon to Sandy!)

    I'm sure there are more, but that's a start...


    *I actually have proof of that one:

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    Adorable Short Clip

    Poor Abby speaks for all of us when cries to mom that she's had enough of Bronco Bama and Mitt Ramany [the Coloradan sees an overload of the Broncos every day too]:





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    Quote Originally posted by Mastiff View post
    Oh hey, great idea! Let's revisit one of the most divisive times in recent political history. Know what? Then perhaps the D's can take a page from the recent Republican cookbook and do a few of these items:

    - Scream loud and long, despite all evidence to the contrary, that Mitt Romney is Mexican.*
    - Claim he CANNOT be Christian because he's Mormon.
    - Have a Democratic leader say, "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Romney to be a one-term president."
    - Hold something like the debt ceiling hostage to get your way.
    - Threaten to filibuster everything.
    - Blame him for the crappy economy from day one. (What?! You didn't fix it over the week-end?)
    - Turn any good thing Romney does into something someone else did, a la Bin Laden.
    - Or just pretend it was a bad thing like saving the US auto industry. (Or FEMA responded too soon to Sandy!)

    I'm sure there are more, but that's a start...
    Well, as long as the D's don't start telling people not to vote for Romney because he is rich and he put a dog carrier on the roof of his car 25 years ago. That would just be a new low.
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    Well, as long as the D's don't start telling people not to vote for Romney because he is rich and he put a dog carrier on the roof of his car 25 years ago. That would just be a new low.
    Yes, mapping the historical consistency of his callous, entitled personality would be a new low. Nothing to see there, move on everyone.

    Lower than seemingly weekly and many $1M+ investigations into nothingburgers, surely.
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    Quote Originally posted by michaelskis View post
    Well, as long as the D's don't start telling people not to vote for Romney because he is rich and he put a dog carrier on the roof of his car 25 years ago. That would just be a new low.
    Yeah, almost as low as CEOs emailing employees that they will get laid off if Obama is elected.
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