Daniels talked the talk but didn't walk it. See various federal lawsuits in re: funding for planned parenthood, immigration, right-to-work, ad nauseum. All signed by the Governor ...Originally posted by Blide
It honestly amazes me how Republicans are deliberately shooting themselves in the foot with social issues. Mitch Daniels had it right when he said they should put social issues on the back burner but unsurprisingly he got spurned for that comment.
Last edited by Gedunker; 12 Mar 2012 at 3:41 PM.
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old ships sailing
like swans asleep
Well, I don't necessarily agree that it will go down that way, but you raise an important point which is that there is often a significant time gap between the enactment of new policies or legislation and the actual results of those changes. This seems to be something completely absent from public discourse as people just lob bombs at whoever is in charge and say they screwed up. It’s a bit childish in my mind, like the way my kids sound when they say they are hungry and then immediately complain that there isn’t anything to eat. Jesum! Can you let me finish making dinner before you start complaining? These things take time!
This all makes it terribly difficult for us to identify “what works” and “what doesn’t” which is further compounded by the political forces that are so eager to point to this or that idea and say its terrible or great simply based on which party it came from. Shouldn’t we be actually, objectively tracking the impacts if different policies and legislation to determine, using some pre-designed measurement, if they are working?
I think another problem with this whole dynamic as it relates to the election cycle is that it pushes politicians to pursue short-term fixes rather than long-term sustainability. Because sometimes the more fiscally responsible approach will not yield benefits up front. But people are not patient and politicians want to get reelected.
The purpose of life is a life of purpose
THE first job of any politician is to get re-elected.
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Article: Is foot-in-mouth disease always fatal to campaigns?
Which one is your favorite ?.Though some gaffes take awhile to seep into the popular culture, the potential for humiliation is instantaneous
Oddball
Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
From Kelly's Heroes (1970)
Are you sure you're not hurt ?
No. Just some parts wake up faster than others.
Broke parts take a little longer, though.
From Electric Horseman (1979)
This is interesting stuff from another forum that I frequent, I'll have to check out the validity of it later, but wanted to post it here first, simply because of how interesting it is.
Apparently this is from one of Reagan's diaries from 2002 that's been recently released.
This too about WAlthough at the time I felt I could more effectively get my ideas of a collective philosophy accomplished as a Republican more so than a Democrat, I realize now that the Republican Party was indeed the party of purely individual rights, not the Democrats. When I worked as the president of the Screen Actors Guild I understood the need for people to stick together for the greater good to get their goals accomplished. I admired other great presidents of the past such as Franklin Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower who knew that in order for the nation to thrive, we must all thrive. I am also saddened that the Republican party of today thinks I wanted God in the White House and to rule the nation. That is not true at all, after I was nearly assassinated I wanted God more in my own personal life. I acknowledged that I was to be here for a reason and serve him and my nation together, but they always stayed separate in my mind just as in the Constitution. The Republican party today merely just uses God as a means to get votes, and I don’t believe Jesus would want to be used as a marketing tool. I regret my decision to become Republican and if I had to do it all over again I would have remained in the Democratic party and ran on their ticket. They seem to instill the core values I believe in, such as a collective philosophy. I thought for a while the Democrats left me, because we used to agree on so much, it turns out that I did indeed leave them, and I would do anything to take it all back. Now as I sit here as an old man, I can only imagine, “what if…”
Assuming this is legit, it is very interesting stuff“I just can’t bring myself to vote for that kid, I knew what he was like when I had his dad as my vice president, and I couldn’t allow for a man like that to lead the nation.”
It's not legitimate.
According to the web site where I just found that supposed quote from Reagan's diary:
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. (Douglas Adams)
It is looking like the individual mandate will be overturned. Not sure how this is going to affect the whole Affordable Healthcare Act, but it is a big blow to Obama and the Democrats. If there is no mandate, there is little value in the insurance pool. I would imagine that today, the justices will note that the whole Act shouldn't be thrown out, but the most important part looks like it might get the heave-ho.
Not sure what I think about this. I have read every article, journal, and opinion on this topic, as it effects my family tremendously... and yet I still don't know if it is better to have the Act in its entirety or not. I guess it is like Tax reform... is it better to take it a step at a time, or just make the jump completely?
A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams
I don't think things are as bad as they appear with the individual mandate. Obviously the Justices are skeptical about the slippery slope the individual mandate could create but it seems they recognize the importance of healthcare and it's unique market characteristics. I honestly think they'll try to find a way to make sure the mandate stands while not allowing it be applicable to other things. If they're unable to find a way to do that, it won't stand though.
Without the individual mandate, health care reform will never effectively be accomplished using for-profit insurers. If the individual mandate is struck down, I think we see a much more concerted push for a single payer system.
Children in the back seat can cause accidents - and vice versa.
While I would like to believe that, I don't think it will happen. When the Court's decision comes down, it will be the end of healthcare reform.
When did I go from Luke Skywalker to Obi-Wan Kenobi?
No our political / news system isn't broken at all...
http://www.eurweb.com/2012/04/sean-h...an-phone-call/“I want to set the record straight,” Hannity said on his Fox News program. “For a few weeks we have been pursuing an interview with Mr. Zimmerman to give him a chance to tell his side of the story. Now yesterday I was contacted by an individual that we in fact believe was George Zimmerman. He reached out to me, we spoke on the phone about his case, and I agreed not to report on the contents of that conversation. That’s it.”
Now this guy thinks that Hannity is a good person to talk with? Is it because Hannity has been so strongly against any call for justice, even if at some point he is convicted... which looks like sooner than later...
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/11...man/?hpt=hp_c1
Why would you go to a blowhard instead of 60 minutes, Barbara Walters, Oprah? I mean seriously.
A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams
Probably because Fox News has been more sympathetic to Zimmerman compared to other networks. As to why Hannity in particular, who knows.
So, the gov. of Wisconsin strikes down their equal pay law.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1059872
Interesting theory...the reason women earn less money than their male counterparts is because money is less important to them.
During the press conference this same senator told the following joke:
Q. How do you fix a woman's watch?
A. You don't. The oven has a clock!
People will miss that it once meant something to be Southern or Midwestern. It doesn't mean much now, except for the climate. The question, “Where are you from?” doesn't lead to anything odd or interesting. They live somewhere near a Gap store, and what else do you need to know? - Garrison Keillor
Virginia House Speaker Bill Howell (R) in a discussion with ProgressVA Executive Director Anna Scholl, talking about the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC).
"I'm a smart girl, actually. I went to the University of Virginia; I benefited from public education; I think words with multiple syllables would be just fine for me."
Holy smokes! He didn't really tell that joke did he?So, the gov. of Wisconsin strikes down their equal pay law.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1059872
Interesting theory...the reason women earn less money than their male counterparts is because money is less important to them.
During the press conference this same senator told the following joke:
Q. How do you fix a woman's watch?
A. You don't. The oven has a clock!
But you know, the real reason why women are fleeing the republican party is because they really don't know much.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/1...-other-people/
Children in the back seat can cause accidents - and vice versa.
I think the nut jobs and wackos have always been out there spouting their nonsense. It just happening out out of thw way places or quietly. With the advent of instant news that goes viral, the nuttiness gets spread throughouth the world in no time flat. That being said, if the R's aren't careful, they are going alienate and piss off enough people that their tent is going to be awfully small.
Do you think there is a connection between this debate concerning women and the rights and the throw back to the early 60's shows/movies? I'm thinking Mad Men and the most recent X-Men movie.
When did I go from Luke Skywalker to Obi-Wan Kenobi?
Not at all. It's because the GOP refuses to moderate its stances on social issues that affect women. It's just more pronounced right now because it's a Presidential election year.
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Very interesting political season:
One side of the mouth says, there should be smaller and more limited government.
Other side of mouth is saying the government should pass laws that tell us who we can marry and if we can get pregnant.
"Whatever beer I'm drinking, is better than the one I'm not." DMLW
What is with this "Mommy War" ?
Oddball
Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
From Kelly's Heroes (1970)
Are you sure you're not hurt ?
No. Just some parts wake up faster than others.
Broke parts take a little longer, though.
From Electric Horseman (1979)
Republicans are trying to attribute what one low level Democrat talking head said to the stance of the entire party. It's one thing when a talking head says something, it's quite another when a Presidential candidate or elected official says something...
Anyway what she said, while poorly worded, was not really incorrect. She may be a hard working mother but Ann Romney is pretty detached from the economic realities most mothers face.
Apparently the Romneys were renters while Mittens was in grad school, and they had to sell some of their stock holdings to make ends meet.
I want to see Ann's W-2s!
I think they may be on to something with this whole anti-holding hands thing in Tenessee
http://www.wmctv.com/story/17353757/...exual-activity
Children in the back seat can cause accidents - and vice versa.
Maybe I've missed something, just what office is Ann Romney running for? Much ado about nothing.
“Death comes when memories of the past exceed the vision for the future.”
Will this be the next TOPIC
Oddball
Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
From Kelly's Heroes (1970)
Are you sure you're not hurt ?
No. Just some parts wake up faster than others.
Broke parts take a little longer, though.
From Electric Horseman (1979)
Yes and no. While I agree this particular issue is much ado about nothing, she is putting herself out there to humanize Mitt. When she's out stumping for her husband on the campaign trail, she is inevitably going to draw criticism just as Michelle Obama does. It may not be fair or justified but what she does reflects on her husband.
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