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    The Canadian alternative universe

    I occasionally describe Canada to those who haven't been there as "kinda' like the United States, but different". The "different" part is seen when you drive by a power center, see the place filled with chain stores, and notice that not a single one of those chains is south of the border. There's also cable channels that are like alternative universe versions of those south of the US border.

    The intent of this thread is to document the Canadian alternative universe; the American and Canadian versions of chains, cable channels, and perhaps other things such as brand names.

    Chain stores and restaurants

    United States: Barnes and Noble, Borders
    Canada: Chapters, Indigo

    United States: Best Buy
    Canada: Future Shop

    United States: Petsmart
    Canada: Petcetera

    United States: Hardee's/Carl's Jr.
    Canada: Harvey's

    United States: Lowe's
    Canada: Rona

    Cable television:

    United States; Time-Warner (evil cable company)
    Canada: Rogers (evil cable company)

    United States: MTV
    Canada: MuchMusic

    United States: ESPN
    Canada: TSN

    United States: Nickelodeon
    Canada: YTV

    United States: Comedy Central
    Canada: Comedy Network

    United States: CMT
    Canada: New Country Network

    United States: The Weather Channel
    Canada: The Weather Network
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    USA - MPH
    Canada - km/h

    USA - K, W
    Canada - C

    USA - Miller
    Canada - Molson

    USA - red, white and blue shield
    Canada - crown

    USA - Jack Daniels
    Canada - Seagrams

    USA - Chase Bank
    Canada - Scotia Bank

    USA - $1 and $2 notes
    Canada - $1 and $2 coins

    USA - A Prairie Home Companion
    Canada - Red Green

    USA - NFL
    Canada - CFL

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    serve it in a shoe...and I want to massage your grandmother

    as Steve Martin once said: those French have a different word for everything!

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    USA - NPR
    Canada - CBC Radio 1 (and Radio 2 and the very awesome Radio 3)
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    American bar = free pour
    Canadian bar = weird automatic nozzle used to dispense exactly 50 mL of liquor

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    Quote Originally posted by mgk920 View post
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    USA - A Prairie Home Companion
    Canada - Red Green...
    CBC Radio runs a delightful program(me), The Vinyl Cafe. Variety music and guests, a humorous monologue, sound effects. It's broadcast on Saturdays and occasionally tours throughout the country (looks like they've been to several US states as well).

    Differences: it's only an hour long, and the host, a newly retired college journalism professor (aka English major), is a hottie. (Well, compared with Garrison, who has that great face for radio.)

    There are podcasts...worth a listen if you're too far from the border to pick it up from Windsor or Niagara Falls or the Soo.

    Also, loonies & toonies are magnetic.

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    There are things about Canada I absolutely love.

    There are some things I hate. This things are typically roadside portable signs with neon lettering or whirlygigs.
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    Jeez Dan- Just move to Canada already
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    Quote Originally posted by imaplanner View post
    Jeez Dan- Just move to Canada already
    I think Buffalo is an honorary part of Canada anyway.
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    Quote Originally posted by imaplanner View post
    Jeez Dan- Just move to Canada already
    Knowing Canada, they'll cough him back!



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    Quote Originally posted by Otis View post
    I think Buffalo is an honorary part of Canada anyway.
    I'm not sure if that's more demeaning to Canada or Buffalo.
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    Windsor is pretty much a suburb of Detroit.
    I always found it interesting that, in the great white South, it's possible to get change in either US or Cdn, and "they" can do exchange rates in their heads.

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    Living in upstate NY (though still 3+ hours from the Canadian border) it is not uncommon to see or use Canadian coins as currency. Most people around here don't bat an eye when a Canadian coin is used to pay for something or received as change.

    In college I spent a year in Virginia and I must've transported some Canadian coins with me. I can remember the look on the cashier's face when I tried unknowingly to pay for something and included a Canadian quarter. She told me she couldn't accept foreign currency. I was all, "it isn't foreign, it is Canadian."
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    USA - out
    Canada - oot
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    I always had this idea for a get rich scheme (note: it would only really work in Michigan or somewhere else with a significant population near the Canadian border and also only when the exchange rate was better, say $1 U.S. to $1.30 Canadian):
    1. Drive to Canada with $7,500 U.S. in cash
    2. Go to Canadian bank and exchange for $9,750 in Canadian
    3. Receive all $9,750 in Canadian pennies
    4. Return to U.S. (when crossing both times you have less than $10,000 cash, therefore nothing to declare)
    5. Spend $9,750 in Canadian pennies in the Detroit area
    6. Enjoy the extra $2,250 you just earned!!





    Yes, I know the exchange rate hasn't been that favorable in years and yes, I know that it would take many many trips to make it "rich", but in theory it seems like it should work.
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    Quote Originally posted by WSU MUP Student View post
    I always had this idea for a get rich scheme (note: it would only really work in Michigan or somewhere else with a significant population near the Canadian border and also only when the exchange rate was better, say $1 U.S. to $1.30 Canadian):
    1. Drive to Canada with $7,500 U.S. in cash
    2. Go to Canadian bank and exchange for $9,750 in Canadian
    3. Receive all $9,750 in Canadian pennies
    4. Return to U.S. (when crossing both times you have less than $10,000 cash, therefore nothing to declare)
    5. Spend $9,750 in Canadian pennies in the Detroit area
    6. Enjoy the extra $2,250 you just earned!!





    Yes, I know the exchange rate hasn't been that favorable in years and yes, I know that it would take many many trips to make it "rich", but in theory it seems like it should work.
    I LIKE IT! My idea was to wait till the two currancies were par, then put a boatload in a Canadian Bank and wait for it to get to 20 percent again. This obvioulsy has many faults as timing the market could be next to impossible.

    How long would it take you to get rid of all them pennies? Its not like you can hand the guy at the party store (convience store for those not familiar with our collquialisms) 75 of them for a candy bar!
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    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    I LIKE IT! ...How long would it take you to get rid of all them pennies? Its not like you can hand the guy at the party store (convience store for those not familiar with our collquialisms) 75 of them for a candy bar!
    Pretty sure that the Coinstar machine would accept a Cdn penny at par.

    Closest Meijer to the bridge/tunnel: Allen Park.

    Let us know how you make out.

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    Quote Originally posted by Veloise View post
    Pretty sure that the Coinstar machine would accept a Cdn penny at par.

    Closest Meijer to the bridge/tunnel: Allen Park.

    Let us know how you make out.
    I'm pretty sure Coinstar rejects Canadian pennies. I think Canadian quarters work in parking meters though.

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    Quote Originally posted by Veloise View post
    Pretty sure that the Coinstar machine would accept a Cdn penny at par.

    Closest Meijer to the bridge/tunnel: Allen Park.

    Let us know how you make out.
    Except doesn't Coinstar charge you a certain %? This we deduct from the profit!
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    Quote Originally posted by Veloise View post
    Pretty sure that the Coinstar machine would accept a Cdn penny at par.

    Closest Meijer to the bridge/tunnel: Allen Park.

    Let us know how you make out.


    CoinStar charges 8% though.

    At one of the credit unions that I use, they have their own machine and charge no fee when turning in a bucket load of change. I know that I have had some Canadian pennies in there and they don't bring them back to me. I also am pretty confident that there are some Canadian nickles, dimes, and quarters in there which end up being turned in at par as well (sometimes a stray Loonie or Toonie will be in there and they do return those to me and not accept them). So I could theoretically dump $1,000 in Canadian pennies into my next batch and see if anybody notices.



    Quote Originally posted by DetroitPlanner View post
    I LIKE IT! My idea was to wait till the two currancies were par, then put a boatload in a Canadian Bank and wait for it to get to 20 percent again. This obvioulsy has many faults as timing the market could be next to impossible.
    How come my wife is never this enthusiastic about my plan? She has about as much faith in this plan as she does in my idea of 25% of my retirement savings into Forever Stamps, because those will not lose any value at all! It's fool proof!

    Warren Buffett watch out!
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    Quote Originally posted by WSU MUP Student View post
    How come my wife is never this enthusiastic about my plan? She has about as much faith in this plan as she does in my idea of 25% of my retirement savings into Forever Stamps, because those will not lose any value at all! It's fool proof!

    Warren Buffett watch out!
    Reminded of this episode...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bot...osit_(Seinfeld)
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    Quote Originally posted by btrage View post
    Darn those bottlers for putting state specific barcodes on the cans and bottles now!
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    Quote Originally posted by Veloise View post
    Pretty sure that the Coinstar machine would accept a Cdn penny at par.

    Closest Meijer to the bridge/tunnel: Allen Park.

    Let us know how you make out.
    My credit union has free coinstar! Maybe I need to experiment someday? How much does one of those WHITI liscences cost?
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    ^^Or you could tube up the pennies and submit as rolls.

    For those baffled by the bottle deposit comments, since 1979 the grand & glorious state of Michigan has enjoyed a 10-cent bounty on carbonated/alcoholic glass and aluminum containers.

    I've heard that it's possible to bring in foreign containers and redeem for deposit (at least, before most grocers went to automatic bar code scanning machines, and before it became illegal). Folks finding themselves in locations where it's inconvenient for drinkers to hang onto their empties (football games, state line) can reap a nice reward.

    A routine discussion in the statehouse involves extending the deposit to non-carbonated containers. Bottled waters, teas, and energy drinks deserve it too.

    It's fun to hear comments from visiting bicyclists. "Your roadsides are so clean." A cartoonist friend drew up a state line situation depicting a pristine Michigan shoulder and a cluttered Ohio one.

    State jargon includes the term ten-center.

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    Quote Originally posted by Veloise;530739
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    I've heard[/I] that it's possible to bring in foreign containers and redeem for deposit (at least, before most grocers went to automatic bar code scanning machines, and before it became illegal). [/I]
    I think the grocery store machines put a stop to this. Before Kids, we would travel back and forth across the border with beer going one way or another and we could never get the grocery store to accept cans or bottles that came from Canada. Even water bottles from Canada were rejected.

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