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    X is the Canada of Y

    I should have posted this on April Fool's Day, when Canadian Planner was here.

    Anyhow, reading about the immigration legislation in Arizona, I thought about how, despite being next door, such laws would never be considered in New Mexico. New Mexico and Arizona are both states in the desert Southwest. Despite their superficia l similarities, New Mexico has a smaller population, takes pride in its diversity and Mexican heritage, is politically fairly liberal, has far fewer vocal MInutemen and militia-type kooks, and in general just feels "kinder and gentler" compared to its bigger cousin to the west. In a way, New Mexico is Arizona's Canada.

    Likewise, I've heard New Zealand described as Australia's Canada. and Switzerland as Germany's Canada. What are some of the other Canadas out there? Is Vermont the Canada of New Hampshire? Is Namibia the Canada of South Africa? Is Chile Argentina's Canada?
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    Yes, Vermont is the Canada of all of New England and New York.

    North Carolina is the Canada of South Carolina and Chapel Hill and Asheville are the Canadas of North Carolina.

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    Ha... excellent thread idea.

    I've heard people liken Maryland to Virginia's Canada more than a few times, but I'm leery; I like to think that Canadians aren't horrible drivers

    Isn't Wales kind of like the Canada of England?
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    I think you're the Canada of the Mod Squad...
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    Oregon is by far the Canada of California...


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    The U.P. is the Canada of Michigan.
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    Quote Originally posted by ofos View post
    The U.P. is the Canada of Michigan.
    Damn, beat me to it!

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    Urbana, Evanston, and Carbondale are the Canadas of Illinois.

    Wyoming is the Canada of Colorado.

    Ireland is the Canada of Great Britain.
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    I wonder, would Quebec be the Canada of Canada?

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    Quote Originally posted by Maister View post
    I wonder, would Quebec be the Canada of Canada?
    I'm more inclined to say that Newfoundland is the Canada of Canada, at least on right coast.
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    Quote Originally posted by Rygor View post
    Ireland is the Canada of Great Britain.

    Ireland is kinder and gentler?!

    I disagree! And aren't they still shooting at each other from time to time?
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    I don't know. Ireland always seems to me to be more happy-go-lucky and less serious than England. Perhaps because it's never had the political might and hasn't started many wars or tried to colonize anyone.
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    Quote Originally posted by Rygor View post
    I don't know. Ireland always seems to me to be more happy-go-lucky and less serious than England. Perhaps because it's never had the political might and hasn't started many wars or tried to colonize anyone.
    That's only because whiskey was invented...
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    Quote Originally posted by Rygor View post
    Wyoming is the Canada of Colorado.
    Having lived in Colorado ... uhh, not really. Wyoming is far more "cowboy" and conservative, far less environmental-oriented, and with residents are gruffer and not really as pleasant or tolerant as those of Colorado. It's really the Austria of Colorado, in a way.

    I'd day the northern Front Range (Boulder/Longmont/Loveland/Fort Collins) is the Canada of Denver, though, while Colorado Springs is its Texas.

    Also ...

    Oregon is the Canada of Washington state. BC too, but that would be too easy.
    North Dakota is the Canada of South Dakota.
    Cleveland Heights is the Canada of Shaker Heights.
    Fort Worth is the Canada of Dallas.
    Would Iowa be the Canada of Nebraska? Is Wisconsin the Canada of Illinois?
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    Quote Originally posted by Dan View post
    Having lived in Colorado ... uhh, not really. Wyoming is far more "cowboy" and conservative, far less environmental-oriented, and with residents are gruffer and not really as pleasant or tolerant as those of Colorado. It's really the Austria of Colorado, in a way.

    I'd day the northern Front Range (Boulder/Longmont/Loveland/Fort Collins) is the Canada of Denver, though, while Colorado Springs is its Texas.

    Also ...

    Oregon is the Canada of Washington state. BC too, but that would be too easy.
    North Dakota is the Canada of South Dakota.
    Cleveland Heights is the Canada of Shaker Heights.
    Fort Worth is the Canada of Dallas.
    Would Iowa be the Canada of Nebraska? Is Wisconsin the Canada of Illinois?
    Yes, Iowa would be the Canada of Nebraska!

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    Ahhhh.....

    Quote Originally posted by Dan View post
    Having lived in Colorado ... uhh, not really. Wyoming is far more "cowboy" and conservative, far less environmental-oriented, and with residents are gruffer and not really as pleasant or tolerant as those of Colorado. It's really the Austria of Colorado, in a way.

    I'd day the northern Front Range (Boulder/Longmont/Loveland/Fort Collins) is the Canada of Denver, though, while Colorado Springs is its Texas.

    Also ...

    Oregon is the Canada of Washington state. BC too, but that would be too easy.
    North Dakota is the Canada of South Dakota.
    Cleveland Heights is the Canada of Shaker Heights.
    Fort Worth is the Canada of Dallas.
    Would Iowa be the Canada of Nebraska? Is Wisconsin the Canada of Illinois?
    Wyoming is the Canada to Colorado??? sure in the same sense as

    North Korea is the Canada to South Korea.....

    NOT

    The Arizona to New Mexico example is perfect
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    Quote Originally posted by Linda_D View post
    Yes, Iowa would be the Canada of Nebraska!
    My husband (a Canadian) always says that Iowa is the "lost province" of Canada. It's neat as a pin and Iowan can be prone to some liberal/progressive politics. I would extend your analogy to:

    Iowa is the Canada of the Midwest!

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    Bloomington is the Canada of Indiana.
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    I wish we (Alabama) had a Canada, or else I'd move there.

    Even our most liberal cities (Birmingham and Huntsville) are *at best* moderate by national standards, though realistically still quite conservative compared with any place outside of the South.

    And there's definitely not any nearby area anywhere in the South that would remotely come close to being our "Canada".

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    Quote Originally posted by Jazzman View post
    I wish we (Alabama) had a Canada, or else I'd move there.

    Even our most liberal cities (Birmingham and Huntsville) are *at best* moderate by national standards, though realistically still quite conservative compared with any place outside of the South.

    And there's definitely not any nearby area anywhere in the South that would remotely come close to being our "Canada".
    What about Atlanta? I bet it's far more liberal in a lot of ways than Buffalo, NY.

    WNY is "God's country" to me, but it has its warts, too, its social and economic conservativism being chief among them. Sometimes you love a place despite its flaws.

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    Quote Originally posted by Linda_D View post
    What about Atlanta? I bet it's far more liberal in a lot of ways than Buffalo, NY.

    WNY is "God's country" to me, but it has its warts, too, its social and economic conservativism being chief among them. Sometimes you love a place despite its flaws.

    Atlanta is NOT liberal. It's moderate at best, and even then that's only in the city proper. If you're looking for a socially liberal area in the South, your best bet is Florida, and possibly parts of North Carolina (Chapel Hill area) and Virginia (northern VA, around DC). Atlanta is a large city for sure, and has *traces* of cosmpolitan culture, but at its heart it is still very much in the Deep South. I would not even begin to compare Atlanta socially or politically to, say, New York or Los Angeles.

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    Minnesota is the Canada of the Upper Midwest. Even has the accent. Any place where a major political party has the word "Labor" in it has got to be Canadian.

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    Quote Originally posted by Masswich View post
    Minnesota is the Canada of the Upper Midwest. Even has the accent. Any place where a major political party has the word "Labor" in it has got to be Canadian.

    Minnesota rocks.

    And I do kind of like the sound of Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party. It sounds like something better than just the plain old Democratic Party.

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    Austin is the Canada of San Antonio... Actually, Austin is the Canada of Texas.

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